And now the Land of Lovecraft makes gay marriage legal 10 replies, 8914 views

crunkmoose
5/2/2013 7:19:00 PM
Rhode Island has now made gay marriage legal, which means all of New England has legalized gay marriage. Great! Now that we have a fifth of the states legalizing gay marriage, can we go ahead and have that whole gay marriage everywhere thing now? Its coming at some point anyway, so you can either keep making people suffer... or you can just go ahead and legalize it.
Man is Truth
5/4/2013 8:48:00 PM
Who says that it is coming at some point, and what is your rationale for its inevitability?
crunkmoose
5/4/2013 9:46:00 PM
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

Who says that it is coming at some point, and what is your rationale for its inevitability?

Pretty much everyone who supports gay marriage... and not only the fact that so many, especially the young support it, but also that so many states have legalized it already and that so many other Western nations have done so already.
Man is Truth
5/5/2013 12:34:00 AM
So you are saying that you believe that the people have a voice, and that their demands are heard and respected and met?
crunkmoose
5/5/2013 9:07:00 AM
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

So you are saying that you believe that the people have a voice, and that their demands are heard and respected and met?

Sometimes.. when it doesn't disrupt the real agendas of government and corporations too much... or when it actually serves them.

Are you such an absolutist that you believe the demands of the people never enact any change at all?
Man is Truth
5/5/2013 11:31:00 AM
what other demands do people make that have been heard, or respected, or met? Marijuana is still illegal, for example.
Man is Truth
5/5/2013 11:33:00 AM
But yes, I do believe that there is no popular voice or power in the state apparatus, and that any changes that occur in the system's architecture are commanded from above and worked to their own advantage, sometimes after getting painted by a slick PR firm's perception management to appear to be consistent with the will of the people.
crunkmoose
5/5/2013 6:50:00 PM
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

what other demands do people make that have been heard, or respected, or met? Marijuana is still illegal, for example.

Hmm... giving women the vote, changing the voting age to 18, a minimum wage (long ago when it was actually a decent wage), ending prohibition. Also, yeah, pot is still illegal, but there are huge inroads being made with that... just as they have been with gay marriage.
Man is Truth
5/5/2013 11:32:00 PM
What year was the most recent one of those examples? It is true that before all dimensions were thrice-surveilled, the people represented a perhaps dormant but terrible specter to the ruling classes- they were still living in relatively cohesive and culturally autonomous ethnic enclaves with their own hierarchies and their own muscle with its own interests and little economic niches.

That is gone forever.
crunkmoose
5/7/2013 8:34:00 AM
Yeah, that must be why 10 states have now made gay marriage legal... because the people have zero voice in government at all.
Man is Truth
5/7/2013 11:57:00 AM
or because it is consistent with the agenda of the ruling class?

which do you think is more likely? What consequences does the ruling class suffer by ignoring the interests of the people?