This guy makes Michell Bachmann look sane. 36 replies, 68384 views

LastOnePicked
10/9/2012 12:34:00 PM
"Republican candidate for the Arkansas House of Representatives Charlie Fuqua, in his 2012 book "God's Law: The Only Political Solution," endorses death penalty for rebellious children in accordance with Old Testament law."


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Man is Truth
10/9/2012 12:36:00 PM
everyone is trying to hard to tether the word Republican to any anti-social, obsolete ignorance conceivable, when in fact the people of the world are turning Libertarian, which is an idea at home in the Republican party
Jason Voorheees
10/9/2012 1:23:00 PM
not really.

the people of the world may even be 'turning libertarian', and republicans are obviously willing to take votes and money from anyone, but it's either amnesia or stupidity behind anyone not noticing the fact that the second republicans ever get any power at all they enact legislation for harsher drug laws, prohibitive or even invasive policies with respect to sexual behavior including but not limited to women's reproductive rights and homosexuality, they are way more likely to initiate military action around the world regardless of libertarian isolationist beliefs and infringing on the rights of those they invade, and that while claiming to lower taxes, they have consistently either raised them or incurred massive debts which make raising them inevitable.

this whole 'libertarians are repuiblicans' bullshit would be as laughable as those corny tea party hats if so many people that vote didn't actually believe it.
Man is Truth
10/9/2012 1:47:00 PM
whatever you want to call it, the idea that you as an individual are responsible for elements of your life and that you enjoy as a birth right of your humanity an ability to do what you want if you are not hurting other people-

this is compatible with republicanism. It just contradicts the popular (media hypnosis implanted) knee-jerk reaction to the word Republican.
DennisQ
10/9/2012 2:39:00 PM
Link doesn't work
da truth
10/9/2012 2:46:00 PM
fuqua
LastOnePicked
10/9/2012 5:07:00 PM
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

everyone is trying to hard to tether the word Republican to any anti-social, obsolete ignorance conceivable, when in fact the people of the world are turning Libertarian, which is an idea at home in the Republican party

when the democratic party is full of religious lunatics, i'll start bitching about them too. crazy's crazy.
LastOnePicked
10/9/2012 5:08:00 PM
Originally posted by: DennisQ

Link doesn't work

fixed (as long as they don't move it again).
crunkmoose
10/9/2012 5:29:00 PM
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

everyone is trying to hard to tether the word Republican to any anti-social, obsolete ignorance conceivable, when in fact the people of the world are turning Libertarian, which is an idea at home in the Republican party

Originally posted by: Man is Truth

whatever you want to call it, the idea that you as an individual are responsible for elements of your life and that you enjoy as a birth right of your humanity an ability to do what you want if you are not hurting other people-

this is compatible with republicanism. It just contradicts the popular (media hypnosis implanted) knee-jerk reaction to the word Republican.

That must be why so many actual registered Republicans are so completely against legalizing pot, allowing pornography, allowing abortion, allowing birth control, gay rights, gay marriage, equal rights for all religions AND the non-religious, etc.. etc.. etc...

You would have a point if Republicans as a part were really Libertarian.. nevermind that Libertarianism is an absolutely horrible idea unless you are insanely wealthy. Seriously... go research what labor was like before government regulation. Go research what product safety was like.

And also.. aren't you the one constantly bitching about the false dichotomy of the parties and how they are exactly the fucking same and ranting and whining any time anyone says that maybe just maybe the Democrats are even slightly better than the Republicans?
crunkmoose
10/9/2012 5:30:00 PM
double post
Jason Voorheees
10/9/2012 10:47:00 PM
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

whatever you want to call it, the idea that you as an individual are responsible for elements of your life and that you enjoy as a birth right of your humanity an ability to do what you want if you are not hurting other people-

this is compatible with republicanism. It just contradicts the popular (media hypnosis implanted) knee-jerk reaction to the word Republican.




like i said....
crunkmoose
10/10/2012 12:45:00 AM
"this is compatible with republicanism. It just contradicts the popular (media hypnosis implanted) knee-jerk reaction to the word Republican."

You mean any honest description of what the actual Republican party actually does and has done for the last 30 years?
Man is Truth
10/10/2012 3:21:00 AM
you are looking at the manufactured media image of the republican party, which works with other establishment cultures/institutions to keep control of the GOP Brand.

Did you not follow the convention at all? Haven't you heard of Ron Paul? lol

in the street, the regular Democrat is a normal family typa person with typically ethnic conservative social values, is anti-war union typa guy who believes that laws should mitigate the inevitable consequences of greed in concentrations of wealth and power. At the DNC, the average democrat is a radical socialist who believes in collectivising child-rearing and makes deals to expand wars and executive war-powers.

Similarly, on the street, the average republican is...

well, a jerkoff. True- this is because they follow retarded information. An informed citizen who believes in the rule of law, the rights of the individual as expressed in the Bill of Rights, and the limitation of government power over voluntary economic behavior is still, however, a republican. Those properties there are properties of a Republic.

the republican party is changing- there will be sad dying vice-grips on the national marketing campaign, but the kind of shit that they pulled at the RNC is proof that your idea of a Republican is out-dated, 20th century horse shit.
Man is Truth
10/10/2012 3:31:00 AM
crunk and voorhees:

do you think that I am of the mold that you are describing? I oppose war. I speak against it in public without shame, which is a lot to say considering my town's last christmas parade featured dangling a bin-laden corpse from a fire-truck. I give counsel to kids considering joining the military. Haha I got an underground railroad blueprint for the next draft. I go to protests and shit.

I hate corporations- nothing would please me more than to smash their executive boards with the litany of laws they use against us, and send them to jungle prison islands to labor thanklessly producing sneakers until they die pitiably with hungry, growling bellies and feeble limbs.

I am an enemy of all forms of coercion, and would radically re-structure society to function without it, and in place create localized, self-sustaining environments of voluntary cooperatives.

I would use federal coffers to pay reparations (with a great many qualifiers) to african-americans, to native-americans, and to anyone who has done time for non-violent offenses.

I'm a republican
Jason Voorheees
10/10/2012 4:11:00 AM
you may think you are, and it's in their best interest to let you and people like you go on thinking you are, but you may need a new tag.

look, i get the whole 'both parties are mostly douchebags' shit, and i agree, it's true. the thing is though, in 2012, there are certain minimal standards people should expect from anyone who even attempts to seek public office and hold sway over other people's lives, and those include understanding basic science, respecting basic civil rights of both americans and non-americans, being fiscally honest, and being socially responsible. and in 2012, the platform of the republican party embraces creationism, opposes entities like the e.p.a., pbs, and planned parenthood, promotes egregious military action as an economic as well as a political policy, puts forward basic fictions about fiscal and tax policy, and opposes legislation regarding things like equal pay, marriage equality, and early childhood education.

it's not that the democrats are so good, it's that the republicans are so bad.

also, ron paul is a great example and emblematic of all this: they locked him out of the convention, remember? unless he's a masochist, i can't see how he can continue to associate himself with a party that will happily let him organize the base and take the votes of his supporters, but has absolutely no intention of ever even remotely entertaining any of his ideas.
Jason Voorheees
10/10/2012 4:47:00 AM
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the cat
10/10/2012 7:27:00 AM
this guy
crunkmoose
10/10/2012 2:58:00 PM
"Did you not follow the convention at all? Haven't you heard of Ron Paul? lol"

Have you not paid ANY attention to the way Ron Paul has been treated by the Republican party???
crunkmoose
10/10/2012 3:00:00 PM
"but the kind of shit that they pulled at the RNC is proof that your idea of a Republican is out-dated, 20th century horse shit."

Oh, you mean how they pandered to Paul supporters a tiny bit to keep them within the party, not split off into a third party that might actually become viable, rather than Paul at best running as an independent? Remind me again who they actually nominated and what their actual policies and platform are.
Dianana
10/10/2012 3:17:00 PM
Originally posted by: Jason Voorheees

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This mother fucker.
Man is Truth
10/10/2012 4:05:00 PM
Ok so I see we have to start at the beginning.

Words mean things.

These things are agreed upon by both the speaker and the listener, or else they are not words, but sounds.

I am saying that among some people, the word Republican means X.

You are saying that it means Y.

In my community, we use the word Republican to mean, "I disagree with using the violence of law to control people's behavior, if that behavior is not harming or threatening anyone."

In your community apparently you use the word to mean, "I am an ignorant douchebag."

And what happened at the RNC, I still assert, proves that Republican as a word is closer to my definition; the National GOP disenfranchised elected delegates! That means up in Maine, in Nevada, etc- registered Republicans went out on Election Day and said, "I am voting to send these Ron Paul people to the Convention; they are my idea of what a Republican is." Their wishes were just not heard or honored by the Establishment. The Establishment is its own party though, and stands astride both Party camps with a transcendent tyrannical malice.
Jason Voorheees
10/10/2012 4:08:00 PM
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

Words mean things.


actions mean things. words often mean nothing.
Man is Truth
10/10/2012 4:12:00 PM
you clicked Reply to display words to make me think something...
Man is Truth
10/10/2012 4:46:00 PM
what if the word that we were disagreeing about was "Homosexual?"

"Gay people are flaming naked parade apes that wave their sack in your face and degenerate the state of matrimony!"

---"I am a homosexual and am none of those things."

"Well I guess you're not a real homo then."

isn't that dumb?
crunkmoose
10/10/2012 6:39:00 PM
"I am saying that among some people, the word Republican means X.

You are saying that it means Y. "

I'm not talking about the word. I am talking about the party. You can wrap yourself up in semantics all day. It still doesn't for one fucking second change what actual Republicans are actually doing in the real world.


Originally posted by: Man is Truth

what if the word that we were disagreeing about was "Homosexual?"

"Gay people are flaming naked parade apes that wave their sack in your face and degenerate the state of matrimony!"

---"I am a homosexual and am none of those things."

"Well I guess you're not a real homo then."

isn't that dumb?

Yes, it is incredibly dumb.... to compare sexual orientation with political party affiliation.
Man is Truth
10/11/2012 12:53:00 AM
Im not talking about the word. I am talking about the party. You can wrap yourself up in semantics all day. It still doesn't for one fucking second change what actual Republicans are actually doing in the real world

yeah I'm saying, there are districts, counties, whole states, where Republicans were electing Ron Paul delegates to the convention...so that is what Republicans are doing in the real world.

yeah at the moment it is a small faction within the party, but it is an emergent one- the republican party that you are talking about is like the respirator-phantom of the nixon era. Very soon all of those leave-it-to-beaver motherfuckers will be in the ground.

I hear what you are saying. But, aren't there anti-establishment democrats? Most democrats have john stewart as their ideological conscience I think; he seems to be incompatible with the DNC party-line ass-kissers. Same idea.