this guy needs his ass kicked... 167 replies, 78360 views

LastOnePicked
11/2/2011 3:34:00 AM
This is what happens when his daughter uses the computer without permission.


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Sorry, can't find embed links on my phone.
blackeyes
11/2/2011 3:41:00 AM


Makes me so angry. The girl is also 16 and has cerebral palsy and he is family law judge. Though for full disclosure it was over illegal downloading and was 7 years ago
dave heck
11/2/2011 3:59:00 AM
if everyone's parents did this when internet piracy started perhaps the music business would still have a heartbeat left in it.

horrible though.
XNXX
11/2/2011 4:14:00 AM
The RIAA doesn't really need a heartbeat. That did kind of hurt to watch
dave heck
11/2/2011 5:13:00 AM
I know a few thousand people who are out of work because of piracy that would disagree with that.
SodaFastBreak!
11/2/2011 6:18:00 AM
Originally posted by: dave heck

I know a few thousand people who are out of work because of piracy that would disagree with that.

blackeyes
11/2/2011 6:26:00 AM
You both know a few thousand people out of work because of piracy?
SodaFastBreak!
11/2/2011 6:31:00 AM
It affects everyone from.. musicians, to labels ,artists, graphic designers, printers, distros, cd and record makers, promoters.... Etc...
marylandmatt
11/2/2011 6:40:00 AM
Yeah... I think the end user in most cases has tunnel vision when it comes to the record industry.

"$10 for a record I can just download for free with very little chance of consequence? Now way, will I open my wallet!"

This mentality has bled the mass music industry dry. It was also the mortal blow to the CD format. It's great that there is a resurgence of vinyl, even if only in underground genres... but as I'm sure both Dave and Soda can attest... sales suffer greatly from downloading even when available on a collectible (and presumably more desirable) medium.

I don't know how you can combat it or if you can at all... but I think it's just a matter of the industry having to evolve to keep its bank vaults slighty out of reach of the general population. I hear people speak of greed within the industry... but i see it more as survival. I guess time will tell.

/toolongdidntread. /obviousstatements.
Dan Conner
11/2/2011 6:47:00 AM
lol.

"I know bands that don't make money from making music because of piracy. She definitely deserved it, and so does anyone else that downloads music."
Dan Conner
11/2/2011 6:55:00 AM
Originally posted by: Maryland Matt

Yeah... I think the end user in most cases has tunnel vision when it comes to the record industry.

"$10 for a record I can just download for free with very little chance of consequence? Now way, will I open my wallet!"

This mentality has bled the mass music industry dry. It was also the mortal blow to the CD format. It's great that there is a resurgence of vinyl, even if only in underground genres... but as I'm sure both Dave and Soda can attest... sales suffer greatly from downloading even when available on a collectible (and presumably more desirable) medium.

I don't know how you can combat it or if you can at all... but I think it's just a matter of the industry having to evolve to keep its bank vaults slighty out of reach of the general population. I hear people speak of greed within the industry... but i see it more as survival. I guess time will tell.

/toolongdidntread. /obviousstatements.

I agree.

But at the same time, I don't find it to be such a horrible thing.

I think when there is no money left to be made in making music that we will see the best music being made. Everything will have heart and soul behind it, because it will be done for the love of doing it rather than any financial gain.

I think that idea is firmly embraced within the dyi hardcore and punk music scenes.
SodaFastBreak!
11/2/2011 6:57:00 AM
This whole thing is a grey area... Was she doin somethin illegal? Yes. Was the punishment excessive? Yes. Does piracy affect more than bands? Yes. Should parent be able to disipline their kids anyway they want?.. well? ... Plus you get the whole... Who are you, to tell me how to raise or disipline my kids?......
Dan Conner
11/2/2011 6:59:00 AM
Also, fuck those people. They should be locked up and sterilized. Pieces of shit, both of em.
blackeyes
11/2/2011 7:00:00 AM
When you're savagely beating your disabled daughter I hope someone will step in and tell you that's not how to discipline your kids. The internet is on the case though, this story surfaced about 12 hours ago. Like three hours after it was first brought up, people were being like "look if you google Judge William Adams, it's the fourth result!" see what it looks like now. The dude's career is ruined at a minimum
Dan Conner
11/2/2011 7:04:00 AM
Originally posted by: SodaFastBreak!

This whole thing is a grey area... Was she doin somethin illegal? Yes. Was the punishment excessive? Yes. Does piracy affect more than bands? Yes. Should parent be able to disipline their kids anyway they want?.. well? ... Plus you get the whole... Who are you, to tell me how to raise or disipline my kids?......


Originally posted by: Dan Conner

Also, fuck those people. They should be locked up and sterilized. Pieces of shit, both of em.


We recently had a local case here not too long ago that gained national attention that is pretty similar to this case. A religious couple "accidentally" put their adopted daughter into the hospital with kidney and other organ failure after "punishing" her for not reading properly with a 15" long piece of plumbing line.

Yeah, she died.

click here for link
marylandmatt
11/2/2011 7:04:00 AM
I agree with with decreased profits should equal increased quality sentiment... but it still costs money (a lot of it) to make, record and distribute music.
Dan Conner
11/2/2011 7:10:00 AM
Originally posted by: Maryland Matt

I agree with with decreased profits should equal increased quality sentiment... but it still costs money (a lot of it) to make, record and distribute music.

I understand. I'm trying to be optimistic. I know shit's changing, and I'm hoping there is good to be brought out of it.

As a fan I will add, because I'm not a musician. I just don't think it's too big of a change for the hardcore scene. I mean, what hardcore band has ever done this for the money? Furthermore, out of the little money you guys make, how much of it is made up of cd sales? I've always thought it was more out of playing shows and merch sales more than cd/album sales.

I just don't think the whole changing of the tides is causing an earthquake in the scene.

Again, maybe I just don't know, because I'm not out there playing in the bands and shit. Just my observations from the sideline.
SodaFastBreak!
11/2/2011 7:12:00 AM
Whats her disablement?.. she seems fine in that video
marylandmatt
11/2/2011 7:39:00 AM
Originally posted by: Dan Conner

Originally posted by: Maryland Matt

I agree with with decreased profits should equal increased quality sentiment... but it still costs money (a lot of it) to make, record and distribute music.



I understand. I'm trying to be optimistic. I know shit's changing, and I'm hoping there is good to be brought out of it.

As a fan I will add, because I'm not a musician. I just don't think it's too big of a change for the hardcore scene. I mean, what hardcore band has ever done this for the money? Furthermore, out of the little money you guys make, how much of it is made up of cd sales? I've always thought it was more out of playing shows and merch sales more than cd/album sales.

I just don't think the whole changing of the tides is causing an earthquake in the scene.

Again, maybe I just don't know, because I'm not out there playing in the bands and shit. Just my observations from the sideline.

You're right that this doesn't effect hardcore bands as much as it does mainstream bands. It's the labels that suffer though. I'm sure Vince or Dave can vouch for that.

As a dude in a band, I will say this. We make most of our money on merch. The profit margins are much higher with shirts than with records. Since we're a smaller band, we're usually not even covering our gas expenses with what we're being paid to play shows and on that subject... show attendance in general is WAY down. In regards to record sales and our profit from that, it all depends on the deal you have with your label. We paid for our own recording and I'd say the average 7" costs a band anywhere from $400-$600 to record. The label absorbs the cost to press the record and that is usually well over $1000 (depending on the number made). Being sold at $5 each, it takes a long time before either party begin to see a profit.

What I'm really trying to say is that if you're profiting from hardcore, you're in the minority,
marylandmatt
11/2/2011 7:49:00 AM
My statement above is only from my perspective as a member of a band. The labels have so many more secondary expenses that need to be factored in as well.

So yeah... piracy is bad in general. As a small band not relying on profits from sales to survive, we just want to be heard.

With all of that said, I am not innocent of downloading music... but I will always purchase the record when I see the band or if the label has a distro set up at a show. Not that it makes it any better... just saying.
sidney
11/2/2011 8:46:00 AM
while piracy does hurt a shit ton of people finacially NO ONE deserves a beating like that girl just go in that video.

it's fucking horrible to watch....i feel bad if i smack my son on the ass if he did something bad.....but i don't gear up for a beating like these parents did. Christ they were like warming up for the beating.

also you can tell they are a bunch of hicks anyway.....and apparently it must have happened a good deal in the past since she decided to set up a video camera for it....she knew it was coming
marylandmatt
11/2/2011 8:49:00 AM
I can count on one hand how many times my daughter had done something that deserved a spank. She's just a really good kid. I can't fathom performing that level of abuse.
chocolate juice
11/2/2011 8:50:00 AM
Everything Sidney said...Fuck these parents.
sidney
11/2/2011 9:06:00 AM
my son lied straight to my face this morning. I noticed he kept his hand in his pocket the whole morning before i took them to school. I asked him why he had his hand in there and he said "i'm fixing myself" which i laughed about since that would be the same way i would do it as well.

right before we were to walk out the door i noticed it still in there. I told him to take his hand out of his pocket and he just kept saying "there is nothing in there!".....well if there is nothing in there take it out. Finally i had to yank his hand out of his pocket, his hand was clenched around something and i had to peel his hand open to get it out...it was a little toy i guess he was trying to smuggle into school. I got so mad at him....not because he was bringing the toy but how he could sit there and lie to my face....it took all my will power not to just smack him in the face. Instead i just pushed him downt the stairs.

no i did holler at him and told him he was to go straight to his room after school.....but i'm still a little mad about how he just lies sometimes....i cannot stand liars.

great story thanks.
Aunt_Pee
11/2/2011 9:44:00 AM
where will this kid go?

thats what i keep wondering. she has to be living with those same parents still. so... she is gearing up for a mega beating now.
hcmofo13
11/2/2011 10:25:00 AM
I got beat as a KID...not at 16. But of course I had to do something so fucking stupid and awe-inspiring for my old man to raise a hand to me and believe me, any time I was struck I definately desereved it. This is just sickening.