Poor Judges 9 replies, 7792 views

I am better than you
1/2/2007 9:53:00 PM
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How they can even have the nerve to say that is disgusting.
asdfjasfjas
1/2/2007 10:43:00 PM
I adressed this already in GC, and AmandaOMGWTF also saw it the way I did. I agree completely that the judges make a large amount of money already, and it should be enough to keep anyone happy. But, you have to consider the amount of education that one has to go through in order to reach the level of federal judge (considerable and generally super expensive, probably appx 9 years of ivy league level), the amount of money one qualified to be a federal judge would make elsewhere (I'd estimate 500k), and the job-related pressures (a level of accountability much higher than that of any other judge). If you want to attract the best to the post, you have to play to any greed they may have...it's just how things work.
carlos danger
1/2/2007 11:42:00 PM
technically they've been losing money. Salaries for judges have only been increased twice in the past twenty years, and the percent raise has been significantly less than the percent inflation.
Kadesh
1/3/2007 4:47:00 AM
i'm sure they'll start changing it now
I am better than you
1/3/2007 3:52:00 PM
Look at teacher salaries. Until they are compensated greatly, I don't give a fuck about the poor judges that made 100,000 plus being a lawyer then 150,000 plus being a judge. When a judge is making 5 times a teacher and has the nerve to complain, I will always laugh in their face.
Toilet Fleet
1/3/2007 7:02:00 PM
Originally posted by:I am better than you

Look at teacher salaries. Until they are compensated greatly, I don't give a fuck about the poor judges that made 100,000 plus being a lawyer then 150,000 plus being a judge. When a judge is making 5 times a teacher and has the nerve to complain, I will always laugh in their face.

...but when a teacher weighs in with an opinion, it does not become case law. When a teacher comes to a conclusion, it does not send somebody to jail or, even worse, their ultimate demise. Teachers may be inadequately compensated, fine, agreed. However, to say that judges should not be made that they become less susceptible to outward financial pressures that may impact their decision-making process simply because another important profession is underpaid makes little to no sense.
asdfjasfjas
1/4/2007 3:22:00 PM
Originally posted by: Toilet Fleet

Originally posted by:I am better than you

Look at teacher salaries. Until they are compensated greatly, I don't give a fuck about the poor judges that made 100,000 plus being a lawyer then 150,000 plus being a judge. When a judge is making 5 times a teacher and has the nerve to complain, I will always laugh in their face.

...but when a teacher weighs in with an opinion, it does not become case law. When a teacher comes to a conclusion, it does not send somebody to jail or, even worse, their ultimate demise. Teachers may be inadequately compensated, fine, agreed. However, to say that judges should not be made that they become less susceptible to outward financial pressures that may impact their decision-making process simply because another important profession is underpaid makes little to no sense.


Further, a teacher generally requires 4 years of undergraduate education at a state university....costing maybe 40-50k and taking up 4 years. Masters often follows, but not necessarily. Whereas a federal judge will generally undergo 4 years undergraduate, 3 yeards JD, 2 years LLM, and continuing education throughout (required in most states)....most all at an ivy league level. The cost and time comparisons isn't even worth counting.
tidbits
1/4/2007 4:17:00 PM
ALL politicians are OVERPAID. Politics use to be ,and should once again become a PUBLIC SERVICE not a career.
Toilet Fleet
1/4/2007 4:50:00 PM
Originally posted by:tidbits

ALL politicians are OVERPAID. Politics use to be ,and should once again become a PUBLIC SERVICE not a career.

Though politics certainly plays some part in the nomination process of federal judges, to equate them with other politicians is glib and bordering on foolhardy.

The establishment of careerism in the political arena has, if nothing else, ensured that representatives will have at least a modicum of accountability towards their constituency. As an example, when congressional leaders become too nationally-focused and leave their voting bloc to twist in the wind, they often lose power, no matter how high the rate of incumbency on the whole. If representation becomes a matter of "public service," then there is little incentive to participate. See the wonderfully enthusiastic reception towards jury duty notifications and eye-popping rates of voter turnout if you doubt my cynicism.
asdfjasfjas
1/6/2007 3:39:00 PM
Originally posted by: tidbits

ALL politicians are OVERPAID. Politics use to be ,and should once again become a PUBLIC SERVICE not a career.

Federal Judges aren't politicians. Federal Judge is a part of a career.