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February 3 2016 1:37 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
quality, availability, price point value, etc.?

soy vs. wheat?
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February 3 2016 1:46 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Seitan has the most protein per serving (23g per serving) and despite being made mostly from vital wheat gluten and nutritional yeast, isn't considered to be too terrible in the carb department either. I also just found out personally that it's incredibly easy and cheap to make yourself.

Soy is easily the most regularly available though because the meat eating world who is starting to dabble in the vegetarian/vegan sections aren't really familiar with anything aside from tofu and soy milk. I believe that's going to change though because a lot of people are starting to lean more towards almond milk and jackfruit is becoming all the rage.

Now for flavor, I lean towards seitan and put soy towards the bottom even though I do love a lot of dishes with tofu in it. Tempeh falls in the middle. Jackfruit is too new to me but my limited experience with it has been pretty decent. I just don't like how it has relatively no protein (2.8g per serving).
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February 3 2016 2:10 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Beyond Meat is awesome/kinda creepy. as long as you use a dry method to cook it, it's pretty realistic, to the point that my girlfriend won't touch it because it's too lifelike for her. the chicken actually tastes a little more like Thanksgiving turkey because they use carrot, onions, and celery to flavor it. but it tears apart and chews almost exactly like chicken
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February 3 2016 6:24 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
If you want to get into all that packaged brand stuff, Quorn has the best products followed by Beyond Meat. Morningstar is kind of crap but I eat some of their stuff still. Boca just sucks.

Tofurky has some solid lunchmeat though.
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Is it hard to build muscle as a vegetarian?
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Isn't almond milk pretty shitty for the environment?
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February 3 2016 7:52 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Klaxton

Is it hard to build muscle as a vegetarian?



Not any harder than it is as a meat eater.
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Originally posted by: Pollcat

Isn't almond milk pretty shitty for the environment?




I'm not 100% sure but I think it tastes gross as shit. Same with cashew milk. That's even worse.
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February 3 2016 10:40 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
excellent, will try making saitan.

have had most commercially available stuff and would recommend field roast from my own experience.

right now i'm using this dried survivalist/prepper stuff that comes in one gallon cans and doesn't expire till 2025. lol. which is made of soy, corn, wheat and yeast. not bad but i wanted to see what was available before the apocapalypse too.

will try beyond meat, haven't had that yet. boca burgers are an ok cheap stand-in, but can also sometimes taste like the cardboard they come in.

also, yes, almond milk is not great. i like coconut milk better, but as it tastes like coconut it's only really useful for sweet food. coconut cream is great too, but also, tastes like coconut and can't really be used as a substitute for cream in all savory dishes, like italian alfredo for instance, and makes everything taste like thai food.
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February 4 2016 6:47 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: WREN

Originally posted by: Pollcat

Isn't almond milk pretty shitty for the environment?




I'm not 100% sure but I think it tastes gross as shit. Same with cashew milk. That's even worse.





Looked up what the issue was with almond milk. The articles all seemed to be coming out around the time that California was at the height of their drought last year. According to articles, it takes about 5 liters of water to produce a single almond (it's about 100 liters to produce 100ml of cow milk). About 80% of the world's almonds are produced in California and because of the lack of precipitation, almond farmers were drilling into aquifiers to pump the water out and that can cause another slew of problems.

It sounds that if almonds weren't mostly produced in California, the production wouldn't be that much of an issue because the water burden that California faced wouldn't be there.
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February 4 2016 8:08 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: WREN

Boca just sucks.



Originally posted by: WREN

Boca just sucks.



Originally posted by: WREN

Boca just sucks.



Originally posted by: WREN

Boca just sucks.



Originally posted by: WREN

Boca just sucks.

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February 4 2016 8:12 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
also when you talk about meat analogues you are pretty much invariably talking about processed food, but I find Morningstar and Boca to be pretty bottom of the barrel in terms of overall quality. I will say during the time I was vegetarian in 2004-5 Morningstar hot dogs were my shit though. my roommate seems to prefer Quorn though I haven't had it. I'm pretty glad that since my girlfriend is vegetarian, and I seem to be back on that horse as well right now, that the last 15 years have been pretty kind to people like me who enjoy realistic substitutes for meat

but man.....I fucking hate Boca burgers
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February 4 2016 8:19 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: WREN

Originally posted by: WREN

Originally posted by: Pollcat

Isn't almond milk pretty shitty for the environment?





I'm not 100% sure but I think it tastes gross as shit. Same with cashew milk. That's even worse.






Looked up what the issue was with almond milk. The articles all seemed to be coming out around the time that California was at the height of their drought last year. According to articles, it takes about 5 liters of water to produce a single almond (it's about 100 liters to produce 100ml of cow milk). About 80% of the world's almonds are produced in California and because of the lack of precipitation, almond farmers were drilling into aquifiers to pump the water out and that can cause another slew of problems.

It sounds that if almonds weren't mostly produced in California, the production wouldn't be that much of an issue because the water burden that California faced wouldn't be there.



That sounds familiar.
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February 4 2016 8:20 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Quorn is technically a fungus so it's another option out there to go beyond soy. Their "chikn" tastes the closest to real chicken if that doesn't freak you out. Their Cranberry/Goat Cheese Chikn Cutlets are really fucking good but are not vegan.

Morningstar Grillers and their nuggets are the only things I really like from them. Any of their flavored burgers aren't really good but I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't eat them in a bind. I try my best to avoid Boca but if their crumbles are on sale, we'll buy them. But we rarely have anything Boca in our fridge.


For veggie dogs, Smart Dogs are the way to go. Tofurky has really good sausage though and they grill great.
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February 4 2016 8:24 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
And I keep forgetting about Gardein. They are one of the few brands out there that attempts at making mock fish. It's not really the best but I give them credit for trying and providing that option. Their meatballs and "beef" tips are really solid though. I recommend the tips if you want to make Shepard's Pie.
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February 4 2016 8:34 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
wegman's store brand faux sausage crumbles and chicken strips are really good, i think they might be gardein.
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