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July 4 2012 9:36 AM   QuickQuote Quote  



This summer is 'what global warming looks like'

Posted: Tuesday July 3, 2012


By SETH BORENSTEIN
AP Science Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -

Washington, DC meteorologist Doug Kammerer received some criticism when, in the midst of the destructive storm blast last week, he said live on the air, "If we did not have global warming, we wouldn’t see this."

Kammerer went on, "I really believe that, I really think that this is because — maybe we would have seen 101, maybe we would have seen 102, but not 104."

Is it just freakish weather or something more? Climate scientists suggest that if you want a glimpse of some of the worst of global warming, take a look at U.S. weather in recent weeks.

Horrendous wildfires. Oppressive heat waves. Devastating droughts. Flooding from giant super-storm deluges. And a powerful freak wind storm called a derecho.

These are the kinds of extremes experts have predicted will come with climate change, although it's far too early to say that is the cause. Nor will they say global warming is the reason 3,215 daily high temperature records were set in the month of June.

Scientifically linking individual weather events to climate change takes intensive study, complicated mathematics, computer models and lots of time. Sometimes it isn't caused by global warming. Weather is always variable; freak things happen.

And this weather has been local. Europe, Asia and Africa aren't having similar disasters now, although they've had their own extreme events in recent years.

But since at least 1988, climate scientists have warned that climate change would bring, in general, increased heat waves, more droughts, more sudden downpours, more widespread wildfires and worsening storms. In the United States, those extremes are happening here and now.

So far this year, more than 2.1 million acres have burned in wildfires, more than 113 million people in the U.S. were in areas under extreme heat advisories last Friday, two-thirds of the country is experiencing drought, and earlier in June, deluges flooded Minnesota and Florida.

"This is what global warming looks like at the regional or personal level," said Jonathan Overpeck, professor of geosciences and atmospheric sciences at the University of Arizona. "The extra heat increases the odds of worse heat waves, droughts, storms and wildfire. This is certainly what I and many other climate scientists have been warning about."

Kevin Trenberth, head of climate analysis at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in fire-charred Colorado, said these are the very record-breaking conditions he has said would happen, but many people wouldn't listen. So it's I told-you-so time, he said.

As recently as March, a special report an extreme events and disasters by the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned of "unprecedented extreme weather and climate events." Its lead author, Chris Field of the Carnegie Institution and Stanford University, said Monday, "It's really dramatic how many of the patterns that we've talked about as the expression of the extremes are hitting the U.S. right now."

"What we're seeing really is a window into what global warming really looks like," said Princeton University geosciences and international affairs professor Michael Oppenheimer. "It looks like heat. It looks like fires. It looks like this kind of environmental disasters."

Oppenheimer said that on Thursday. That was before the East Coast was hit with triple-digit temperatures and before a derecho - a large, powerful and long-lasting straight-line wind storm - blew from Chicago to Washington. The storm and its aftermath killed more than 20 people and left millions without electricity. Experts say it had energy readings five times that of normal thunderstorms.

Fueled by the record high heat, this was among the strongest of this type of storm in the region in recent history, said research meteorologist Harold Brooks of the National Severe Storm Laboratory in Norman, Okla. Scientists expect "non-tornadic wind events" like this one and other thunderstorms to increase with climate change because of the heat and instability, he said.

Such patterns haven't happened only in the past week or two. The spring and winter in the U.S. were the warmest on record and among the least snowy, setting the stage for the weather extremes to come, scientists say.

Since Jan. 1, the United States has set more than 40,000 hot temperature records, but fewer than 6,000 cold temperature records, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Through most of last century, the U.S. used to set cold and hot records evenly, but in the first decade of this century America set two hot records for every cold one, said Jerry Meehl, a climate extreme expert at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. This year the ratio is about 7 hot to 1 cold. Some computer models say that ratio will hit 20-to-1 by midcentury, Meehl said.

"In the future you would expect larger, longer more intense heat waves and we've seen that in the last few summers," NOAA Climate Monitoring chief Derek Arndt said.

The 100-degree heat, drought, early snowpack melt and beetles waking from hibernation early to strip trees all combined to set the stage for the current unusual spread of wildfires in the West, said University of Montana professor Steven Running, an expert on wildfires.
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July 4 2012 9:51 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Oh yeah? Well it has been unusually cold and rainy here this year. Explain that, smart guy.
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July 4 2012 10:05 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Davey.

Oh yeah? Well it has been unusually cold and rainy here this year. Explain that, smart guy.



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July 5 2012 3:05 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
proven- increased solar radiation leads to increased co2 in air and increased temperature. Climate Change is the Eclipse Sacrifice from Apocalytpo. The learned ruling class mystics in the temples claim credit or assign blame for natural forces that they understand but that confuse and scare the unwashed, uneducated peasantry, and then use their authority to make policy. Without their intervention, the wrath of the gods would destroy us!
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July 5 2012 3:27 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
[video] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rhzlqpOxs7k [/video]

see how the ruling class (The high priest as the media, and the Empire) use their scientific knowledge to cloak themselves in a mantle of super-humanity? See how the idiots in the crowd panic when they observe perfectly explainable natural forces?

Well now the sun is gearing up and blasting us- the ruling class uses it as an excuse to pass laws that control our behavior and burns down villages, murders and starves africans! so that we can be safe!

people who believe that sinful dirty ignorant man unregulated by divinely inspired classes are responsible for the weather on earth are the same as the idiots in the crowd in the video when the eclipse hits. Al Gore's carbon-trading scam is literally the same movement, and people still fall for it!
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July 5 2012 3:29 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
queer every attempt at embedding the video reloads the old page
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July 5 2012 9:21 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Yeah, because despite worldwide deforestation, pumping greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere for over a century, raising cattle to numbers not even possible in nature, and destroying large swaths of the ozone layer... we couldn't possibly have any effect on the climate.
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July 5 2012 9:23 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
You bitch and moan about the received wisdom of those who actually bothered to study anything rather than have some guy down the street explain everything to them... and yet you rely on received wisdom that says what you want to hear... that everything is a conspiracy.
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July 6 2012 9:50 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
In your rhetoric-deflection manual, what page says, "Just say it's a conspiracy theory?"
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July 6 2012 6:40 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

In your rhetoric-deflection manual, what page says, "Just say it's a conspiracy theory?"



Conspiracies happen... but not everything is a conspiracy. Maybe if you didn't present fucking EVERYTHING as a conspiracy I wouldn't point things like that out. Seriously... video glitch on cnn... conspiracy. Being required to be a trained doctor to practice medicine... conspiracy. Climate change.. conspiracy. College.. conspiracy.

I'm still waiting to hear what you loons think is actually NOT a conspiracy.
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July 6 2012 7:03 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
it's like this- if I don't pay the government what it says when it says, they come for me with guns and choppers. I do not want to pay for the things that they do with this money; corporate welfare, war-profiteering, spying on me and my friends, general global malevolence child-murdering, biological modifications and genetic patents, mass detention deportations, sanctions, raids on homoepathic clinics and natural-birth midwives- don't want any of that. But they point a gun at me- fuck you, obey me!

now, all of those things are forced upon me by force with weapons of force by men who are sanctioned to use force against me to force me to pay for these.

now, all of those initiatives and projects and economic measures- they are the result of individual networks operating with strategies in boardrooms. each has a goal, each deploys their vast resources in pursuit of these goals.

that these structures exist at all necessarily means their goals are against my interests
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July 6 2012 7:05 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
rather than see the world this way, which is admittedly rather demoralizing, most choose the soothing comfort of wrapping the explanation in quote tags and writing it off as conspiracy theory.
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July 6 2012 9:11 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
"raids on homoepathic clinics"

You do realize homeopathy is actually a complete lie, right?
Water doesn't have a "memory", substances don't get more powerful if you dilute them, and sugar pills do nothing.
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July 6 2012 9:15 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Man is Truth

it's like this- if I don't pay the government what it says when it says, they come for me with guns and choppers. I do not want to pay for the things that they do with this money; corporate welfare, war-profiteering, spying on me and my friends, general global malevolence child-murdering, biological modifications and genetic patents, mass detention deportations, sanctions, raids on homoepathic clinics and natural-birth midwives- don't want any of that. But they point a gun at me- fuck you, obey me!

now, all of those things are forced upon me by force with weapons of force by men who are sanctioned to use force against me to force me to pay for these.

now, all of those initiatives and projects and economic measures- they are the result of individual networks operating with strategies in boardrooms. each has a goal, each deploys their vast resources in pursuit of these goals.

that these structures exist at all necessarily means their goals are against my interests



Then move someplace else. Somali doesn't have much in the way of government services or regulations. I wouldn't argue that there are not lots of things I would like to see changed about government or that there are not some goals that are not for the public good... but that doesn't make everything an evil conspiracy. For example, the big reason for not allowing people to practice medicine without a license is to keep quacks and cons (of which there are a lot) from making people worse, discouraging people from seeking actual, effective medical care, or killing people. Just look at the actual history of medicine.
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July 7 2012 12:53 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Then move someplace else.



why would I presume that their violence against me is legitimate or have any respect for their claim to speak for the good of the people around me? This is where I live and where my people live.
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