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deadlift
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June 23 2012 8:11 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
5x5 is a good starting place. I'd also consider 5/3/1 by Jim Wendler. Both are percentage based programs, which is love and the workouts will have you in and out of the gym in under an hour if your busting it. Whichever program you choose.. stick with it for atleast 6 months. You will see gains from either of these programs if you're dedicated and your nutrition and rest is on point.

Considering you do manual labor you're probably going to wanna up those calories A LOT once you get in the gym. I'm 175lbs when i'm not competing and do not work a manual labor job, but I have to consume 3200 calories to just maintain my weight because of the amount of work i put in at the gym. Everyone is different and you just have to find your sweet spot in terms of the amount of calories you need for your desired goal. A good start is to find your maintenance level and add 300 calories and monitor your progress for 2 weeks and evaluate. if you're adding too much fat, cut calories.. if you're losing or staying idle.. add 100-200 calories and do it all again. Like I said, everyone is different and you just have to find what works for you.

You say you don't eat a lot of meat or dairy.. so i'm probably not the person to talk to about what you should eat to hit your goal. Wren would be a better person to offer advice about what to eat as a replacement for meat and dairy to hit your protein needs.

If you have any questions about anything i'm more than willing to help.

edit: i don't know how much experience you have with strength training and the main compound lifts, but master your form and don't start off these programs with inflated numbers.. it's better to start conservative because if you don't and you're not prepared.. you'll be in for a rude awakening real quick.
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June 23 2012 8:22 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
dead lift, i need to shed pound age but keep tight. i also dont care about loosing weight. in fact i want to gain muscle mass and just lose the fat.


will this battle be fought in the kitchen? will i need to add a cardio regiment to my lifting routine. both?


halp
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June 23 2012 2:29 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: deadlift

5x5 is a good starting place. I'd also consider 5/3/1 by Jim Wendler. Both are percentage based programs, which is love and the workouts will have you in and out of the gym in under an hour if your busting it. Whichever program you choose.. stick with it for atleast 6 months. You will see gains from either of these programs if you're dedicated and your nutrition and rest is on point.

Considering you do manual labor you're probably going to wanna up those calories A LOT once you get in the gym. I'm 175lbs when i'm not competing and do not work a manual labor job, but I have to consume 3200 calories to just maintain my weight because of the amount of work i put in at the gym. Everyone is different and you just have to find your sweet spot in terms of the amount of calories you need for your desired goal. A good start is to find your maintenance level and add 300 calories and monitor your progress for 2 weeks and evaluate. if you're adding too much fat, cut calories.. if you're losing or staying idle.. add 100-200 calories and do it all again. Like I said, everyone is different and you just have to find what works for you.

You say you don't eat a lot of meat or dairy.. so i'm probably not the person to talk to about what you should eat to hit your goal. Wren would be a better person to offer advice about what to eat as a replacement for meat and dairy to hit your protein needs.

If you have any questions about anything i'm more than willing to help.

edit: i don't know how much experience you have with strength training and the main compound lifts, but master your form and don't start off these programs with inflated numbers.. it's better to start conservative because if you don't and you're not prepared.. you'll be in for a rude awakening real quick.



I'll definitely be easing into the weight the first couple weeks, luckily I have a friend who knows his shit to help me with form and such. I'll check out the 5/3/1 program too and see what's going on with that.

I think my main problem is definitely what I eat whenever I try to gain weight. Last year I worked on the appalachian trail, hiking like 15 miles a day plus chopping up blown down trees and other maintenance and was eating around 5000 calories a day without gaining anything.

My boss today actually mentioned he's going to try to get us free memberships to the planet fitness here, probably not the best gym but would be nice if it's free.

Thanks for all the information, I'll probably have some more questions after I get started with something.
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June 23 2012 3:53 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Aunt_Pee

dead lift, i need to shed pound age but keep tight. i also dont care about loosing weight. in fact i want to gain muscle mass and just lose the fat.


will this battle be fought in the kitchen? will i need to add a cardio regiment to my lifting routine. both?


halp




Greg Road
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June 23 2012 7:18 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
what foods / meals would you recommend eating if you wanted to increase muscle by 10 - 15 pounds, but avoiding things like bread and pastas.
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bennet, how can i improve my teeth?
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November 26 2012 2:40 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Breakfast Sandwiches

what foods / meals would you recommend eating if you wanted to increase muscle by 10 - 15 pounds, but avoiding things like bread and pastas.



you already answered your own question.
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November 26 2012 2:42 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
everyone should read this before posting questions. its not the most comprehensive but it covers a lot of basic things.


click here for link
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December 12 2012 2:53 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
i just finished P90x last week and as corny as it sounds the shit fucking worked. I went from about 165 down to between 145 and 148 and got really cut.....almost back to a six pack if I could just lay off the damn beer (which will probably never happen)

I did not even follow the diet they supply with it and it worked.

going to do it and another one of the beach body excersises in the late winter going into summer...hybrid of two I think...P90x and Insanity
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December 12 2012 2:56 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
now youre ready for a dick up your ass
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December 12 2012 2:59 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
i'll stick with my wife's finger during bj's
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December 15 2012 12:25 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
I have/had a slight tear in my LCL that seemed to be healed, and I just hesitantly started doing ATG squats, but on a smith machine (I know) out of the horrifying mental images of my knee just blowing out doing them with a barbell. I have long heard that olympic style squats are actually good for the knee's, but I've been having some dull aches in that knee the night that I squat. What do you think?
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December 16 2012 8:45 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Much easier to jack up your knees on a smith machine than just by doing normal squats. Even when I was squatting a lot I couldn't do smith squats at all because they hurt my knees and felt awkward. Those and leg extensions are the only things that have ever bothered my knees.

If you are squatting right your knees will be fine.
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December 17 2012 8:26 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Yeah, I feel like I kinda knew that, but wanted someone to justify my use of the smith machine, lol. I think my form right now is prob sloppy due to not squatting in well over a year, so the smith machine kinda corrects errors in my form by force. This is not good for the legs, I know.
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December 18 2012 11:34 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
What exercises/routines do you all suggest for overall tricep strength and size? Consistently the muscle I see the least progress on, even when I try different things.
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