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August 8 2011 5:16 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Dickscraper

Originally posted by: -Jeremy-


Originally posted by: Kermit Butts

I was referring to the genius that alluded to city of god being a piece of shit (a label which most people would attribute to films like the prom night remake).


It's for this same reason that I always found it irritating when people would refer to Donnie Darko as "the worst movie ever made" or "the biggest pile of shit i've ever seen". Is it a little overrated? Perhaps. Is it anywhere near being a "bad" movie, let alone one of the worst movies ever made? Definitely not.


i mean obviously it's nowhere near the worst movie ever made. but it most definitely is bad.


I definitely disagree.
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August 8 2011 6:41 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Pacing is pretty important to a film, but I don't think that bad pacing always ruins it. It's really a matter of perspective as to whether the pacing makes or breaks a movie. Good writing, acting, and or direction can usually make up for a movie dragging or going by too quickly.

A movie series that shows all sides of this equation would be the Spider Man Trilogy. My favorite will always be the second movie, but the first movie's pacing is far better. Pretty much everything was set up and flowed well from Peter's status in society to his crush on Mary Jane to his being bitten by the spider; gaining and learning to use his powers, making money off them and so on. Nothing about the first film made me think "Can we get on with it?"

The second movie though, as much as I love it, dragged a bit and had some padding. For example, most of what transpires between Peter dumping the suit and Doc Ock attacking Aunt May could have been cut and it would have made the pacing much better. But the sequences that do drive the plot are so well written and directed that the padding doesn't bother me that much. In a lesser movie it probably would have been a dealbreaker though. Again a matter of perspective.

The third film's pacing is also off, but in the exact opposite manner. Everything goes way too fast and important events go by without a proper transition or explanation. Unlike the second film the writing, acting, and direction don't compensate for this because it's all terrible.

A more recent example could be the Dark Knight. A great movie whose pacing is also a bit off. As awesome as it was, the Hong Kong sequence was padding and could have been cut without affecting the plot in anyway for example. But the direction, writing, etc in the movie makes up for any pacing issues it may have.
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August 9 2011 4:39 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Wet Hot American Summer sucks. All Tarantino movies are awful. Step Brothers is way better than Anchorman
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August 10 2011 6:50 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
the coen brothers seriously piss me off with their movies from time to time.

i can use burn after reading and no country for old men as examples. in both of those movies there is huge buildup to scenes that you never see. in no country it was the confrontation at the hotel and in burn after reading it was the incident in the street with malkovich. both of which results in the death of a major character. in each case it's build up then cut to two guys talking about what happened.
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August 10 2011 6:53 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: jim-truth-

the coen brothers seriously piss me off with their movies from time to time.

i can use burn after reading and no country for old men as examples. in both of those movies there is huge buildup to scenes that you never see. in no country it was the confrontation at the hotel and in burn after reading it was the incident in the street with malkovich. both of which results in the death of a major character. in each case it's build up then cut to two guys talking about what happened.



Art.
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August 10 2011 10:15 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: jim-truth-

the coen brothers seriously piss me off with their movies from time to time.

i can use burn after reading and no country for old men as examples. in both of those movies there is huge buildup to scenes that you never see. in no country it was the confrontation at the hotel and in burn after reading it was the incident in the street with malkovich. both of which results in the death of a major character. in each case it's build up then cut to two guys talking about what happened.



Completely agree.
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August 10 2011 10:24 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
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August 11 2011 7:35 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: adam.

Originally posted by: jim-truth-

the coen brothers seriously piss me off with their movies from time to time.

i can use burn after reading and no country for old men as examples. in both of those movies there is huge buildup to scenes that you never see. in no country it was the confrontation at the hotel and in burn after reading it was the incident in the street with malkovich. both of which results in the death of a major character. in each case it's build up then cut to two guys talking about what happened.



Art.



Their "art" is to tell a good story, not leave the audience hanging at crucial moments in a film.
All of what Jim says is completely true.
I walked away from both of those movies being more like "what the fuck.." then "Wow, that was awesome."
Dont get me wrong, No Country will probably become a classic.
But parts of it pissed me off to no end.
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August 11 2011 7:15 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
now that we're talking coen brothers, how did everyone feel about a serious man?
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August 15 2011 12:15 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
All Fast & Furious movies are AWESOME
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August 15 2011 12:20 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: SodaFastBreak!

All Fast & Furious movies are AWESOME




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August 15 2011 12:22 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: jim-truth-

the coen brothers seriously piss me off with their movies from time to time.

i can use burn after reading and no country for old men as examples. in both of those movies there is huge buildup to scenes that you never see. in no country it was the confrontation at the hotel and in burn after reading it was the incident in the street with malkovich. both of which results in the death of a major character. in each case it's build up then cut to two guys talking about what happened.



the novel of no country for old men did the same thing. the coens were just following the narrative of the book with that.
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August 15 2011 2:25 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
o brother where art though is awful, especially if you like the odyssey. james joyce can do a parallel narrative to a work by homer, the coen brothers, not so much. and all that fruity, cutesy, trendy [then] hillbilly shit made me want to puke. i wanted that one douche dancing with the fiddle to step on a rake.
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August 15 2011 2:31 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: mark devito

Originally posted by: eddie.

the director's cut of alien3 isn't that intolerable.

smokin' aces was a lot of fun and is highly overlooked.



Smoking Aces is fucking awesome.

The Alien 3 directors cut is far superior to the original version and is also my favorite out of the entire series.







i actually liked alien3. i've noticed that a lot of people who have seen alien2 before alien1, don't like it, but people who have seen them in order either dislike it less or actually like it.
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September 1 2011 2:18 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Max Schreck

Originally posted by: mark devito

Originally posted by: eddie.

the director's cut of alien3 isn't that intolerable.

smokin' aces was a lot of fun and is highly overlooked.



Smoking Aces is fucking awesome.

The Alien 3 directors cut is far superior to the original version and is also my favorite out of the entire series.



i actually liked alien3. i've noticed that a lot of people who have seen alien2 before alien1, don't like it, but people who have seen them in order either dislike it less or actually like it.





alien 3 is by no means a favorite of mine but i thought it was neat you got to see a new version of the alien spawned by a dog.

smoking aces had some solid performances in it. i got really bummed when liotta got taken out.
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