forum Politics and Society ›› paying for college ›› new reply Post Reply
Jason Voorheees
dogfood meatballs
6,446 Posts
39/M/NY


offline   (4)
December 1 2013 6:30 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
so, all those kids with rich parents that don't have to worry about financial aid or getting a job while in college? yeah, apparently they also learn more. and do better. sucks to be born into the lower castes.










Poverty reduces cognitive abilities, new study finds
washingtonpost.com

Poverty consumes so much mental energy that people struggling to make ends meet often have little brainpower left for anything else, leaving them more susceptible to bad decisions that can perpetuate their situation, according to a study published Thursday in the journal Science.

“Past research has often blamed [poverty] on the personal failings of the poor. They don’t work hard enough; they’re not focused enough,” said University of British Columbia professor Jiaying Zhao, who co-authored the study as a Princeton University graduate student.

As part of the study, researchers conducted experiments on two groups of subjects: low- and middle-income shoppers in a mall in New Jersey, and sugar cane farmers in rural India.

In the mall experiment, shoppers underwent a battery of tests to measure IQ and impulse control. However, half the participants were first given a “teaser” question — what they would do if their car had broken down and needed $1,500 worth of repairs — designed to put a pressing financial concerns at the forefront of their thoughts.

In India, researchers tested the cognitive capacity and decision-making of farmers before the sugar cane harvest, when they were most strapped for money, and afterwards, when they had fewer financial woes.

The results showed that people wrestling with the mental strain of poverty suffered a drop of as much as 13 points in their IQ — roughly the same found in people subjected to a night with no sleep.

“Poverty is the equivalent of pulling an all-nighter,” said Harvard economist Sandhil Mullainathan, another of the study’s authors. “Picture yourself after an all-nighter. Being poor is like that every day.”

Mullainathan said previous research often has assumed that poor people are poor because they are somehow less capable than others, whether inherently or because of past trauma or other environmental factors in their lives. But, he said, what the latest study suggests is that the strain of poverty can tax the cognitive abilities of anyone experiencing it — and that those abilities return when the burden of poverty disappears.

“While the poor may be experiencing a scarcity of money, at some level what they may really be experiencing is a scarcity of bandwidth, of cognitive capacity,” he said. “It’s the situation that’s creating the stress.”

Zhao and Mullainathan said that their findings, if accurate, could have profound implications for public policy.

For starters, policymakers “should beware of imposing cognitive taxes on the poor just as they avoid monetary taxes on the poor,” the paper states.

“You are captured by these monetary issues — how to pay rent, how to pay bills,” Zhao said. “As a result, you’re less attentive to other problems. You neglect other things in life that deserve your attention.”
bobhughes
bobhughes
1 Posts
23/M/CA


offline 
November 11 2014 3:13 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
im gay
Marky_Brown
Time Husk
1 Posts
30/M/OR


offline   (1)
January 22 2015 8:48 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
me too
Lament Configuration
your mistake
645 Posts
38/M/NA


offline   (1)
April 8 2016 2:10 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
the fuck with these payday loans spam posts. lol

of course college should be free to anyone who can get in. period. the value to the country is in fact translatable to dollars as we become less competetive globally, as is the loss of every poor smart kid that winds up working at some retail job because he couldn't even conceive of affording college. one less engineer, one more mcdonalds employee. we are so far behind the rest of the first world it's not funny. and still sinking.
crunkmoose
Fuck Nazis.
24,526 Posts
60/M/MA


offline   (9)
September 16 2016 8:03 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
"but i guess you can learn as much as you d learn if you went to some prestigious college."

Its not all about what you can learn. It is about what resources you have access to, the people you have access to, the opportunities you have access to. These are often radically different between the more prestigious colleges and state schools.

The big problem is that at the moment a large part of what decides where one goes to college is money, not grades or potential.

"but anyways i like being in charge of my education so i d rather pay and know what i m paying for rather than just get paid for going to college but actually learn nothing"

The idea that the alternatives are either be in charge of what classes you take or learn nothing is absolutely ludicrous.
Cumby
Time Husk
8,747 Posts
29/M/PA


online   (4)
September 16 2016 10:06 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
gaying for collage
Nicky_Mellows
Time Husk
4 Posts
25/F/NY


offline   (1)
September 15 2017 12:05 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Mostly, the college is also a self-education, but it takes a lot of time for unnecessary courses. What’s about me, I’ve understood in the half of my studying period, college isn’t everything to succeed. That’s why I tried to optimize the time spent on homeworks and lessons to concentrate on things I’d like to do in future. This is a bit awkward to say, but sometimes I used different websites (sorry, professors!) and it helped me to develop while my research paper was written. In addition, I have to say, I had a grant for education, that’s why I didn’t leave a college and decided to finish my education.
crunkmoose
Fuck Nazis.
24,526 Posts
60/M/MA


offline   (9)
September 15 2017 4:28 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Nicky_Mellows

Mostly, the college is also a self-education, but it takes a lot of time for unnecessary courses. What’s about me, I’ve understood in the half of my studying period, college isn’t everything to succeed. That’s why I tried to optimize the time spent on homeworks and lessons to concentrate on things I’d like to do in future. This is a bit awkward to say, but sometimes I used different websites (sorry, professors!) and it helped me to develop while my research paper was written. In addition, I have to say, I had a grant for education, that’s why I didn’t leave a college and decided to finish my education.



Not everyone knows what they are going to do with their lives when they are in college. Many who major in one thing end up doing something different later on in life. General education is not a waste.
Wiseacre
Time Husk
1,205 Posts
30/F/PA


offline  mobile reply   (3)
September 15 2017 6:28 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
I agree. General education is most certainly not a waste.
crunkmoose
Fuck Nazis.
24,526 Posts
60/M/MA


offline   (9)
September 15 2017 11:58 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Also, let's not forget that gen ed subjects can easily come in handy later on even if one does exactly what one majors in. Not to mention life outside of one's profession.
ShondaCo
Time Husk
4 Posts
39/M/NA


offline   (2)
September 16 2017 12:59 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Hello guys
forum Politics and Society ›› paying for college ›› new reply Post Reply

Quick Reply - RE: paying for college

Connect with Facebook to comment: Login w/FB

or Sign up free! - or login:







Subject


wrap selection with italics
wrap selection with bold
insert less than symbol
insert greater than symbol


google image Insert Google Images
Share a Band



Your ad here?