they're recording it right now.

iggor cavalera is playing drums on it and so far they've said that scott vogel is doing guest vocals on a song.

i'm pretty stoked on it and hope that it matches the intensity of in this defiance.

i posted this on facebook a month or so ago and got flamed for it.

I'll check it out. Still weird they're active under the name of a "classic" sxe band, but whatever. Their live show was damn good.

the whole breaking edge thing is ridiculous but i still like them as a band. hopefully the new album slays.

Igor posted song notes a few weeks ago that were hilarious. It said something like "intro, two step, mosh part, breakdown, entombed part, mosh part, two step, breakdown, outro" or something weird like that. He also broke out the kit he used for Arise for this record.

A part of my childhood died in 2002 when I was in xLFx and we opened for them on their tour for Angermeans and my first time meeting Rick Rodney, he was wearing a canadian tuxedo and smoking marlboro reds.

They got heckled out of Baltimore that night by kids who now aren't straight edge anymore either. Justin did have a good bit of stage banter with the "looks like we have a sell-out crowd tonight!" zinger.

Anyway... I'm definitely going to check the new record out and I'm by no means anywhere near the straight edge asshole that I was in 2002, but there is a definite degree of apprehension about them existing at all at this point. Especially given the bullshit they were saying from the stage during that 2002 tour about how they were never meant to be a "straight edge band" and the "truth" that they always spoke of was actually about love.

:::slow jerk:::

I get their point about what the "truth" was. If you pay attention to their lyrics they were always more about unity and equality. They really only have 2 or 3 "straightedge" songs. If they never wanted to be labeled a straightedge band, they should have never printed shirts that said "Strife: California Straightedge" on them.

I take it for what its worth but I'm also an adult now. The only thing that is really affected in their set is they can't play Force Of Change anymore but I've seen the band play the song with someone who is edge singing. They've come out and really explained their stance in a more mature manner about the topic of selling out rather than the douchebaggish preaching they did 10 years ago.

I'll give the new record a chance. I think the realize how terrible Angermeans is because they only play the one good song from it live. With Igor on drums, it has alot of potential to be really heavy. I'm not expecting In This Defiance Part 2, but I'm expecting something relatively good.


and whenever they play, I'll still try to murder someone when they play Blistered.

I totally agree. I'm a different person than I was 10 years ago and I'm WAY more open to giving them a chance. They may only have a handful of songs that specifically mention straight edge, but the foundation of that band was hardened with that ethos. They just came off as disingenuous when they tried to justify their continued existence by glossing over the fact that they once were a VERY loud proponent of that movement. Have you seen the "One Truth Live" VHS that Victory put out in like 1996? They were the corniest edge kids back then. I love it.

anticipating

Originally posted by: -T

Originally posted by: -T

I’m not 100% convinced this isn’t just Dave from Copstabber trolling hardcore kids

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Originally posted by: -T

Originally posted by: -T

I’m not 100% convinced this isn’t just Dave from Copstabber trolling hardcore kids

....which would RULE

Did they ever say why Igor is drumming and not the dude they had with them for shows? He was a more than capable drummer IMO. Regardless, cool that Igor is doing it AND busted out his Arise kit.

Its Igor Cavalara.Why not

People care about breaking edge in 2012. They care. About edge break. In 2012.

I found out the hard way people cared in 2010

Maryland Matt still occasionally drives by my house blasting Ten Yard Fight and going all like