Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

I feel that anything operating via fusion or fission is better off operating in orbit than on earth. Then again, I think a lot of things are better off in orbit.

Originally posted by: ass nipples

how did that saying get so fucked up

Originally posted by: sidney

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

I need to know whether it was the CIA or the Mossad so I can know where to send the thank you letter.
On a serious note, it's not just us or the Israelis that don't want Tehran playing with nukes.

Still been no real proof presented that they are developing nuclear weapons.

No proof that they aren't, either, just a bunch of Third Reich banter about erasing nations off the earth. You can see the way in which Iran treats its citizenry that the "peaceful energy" schtick is total bullshit. As a matter of fact, any thinking person can figure out what's going on. This "no proof" ideal is cute and all but it's really just a rhetorical failsafe.

NO PROOF!

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

I feel that anything operating via fusion or fission is better off operating in orbit than on earth. Then again, I think a lot of things are better off in orbit.

The entire field of GOP candidates, for example.

But seriously... putting anything like that into orbit would actually make it more dangerous if something were to go wrong and were it to fall out of orbit or be destroyed.

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: sidney

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

I need to know whether it was the CIA or the Mossad so I can know where to send the thank you letter.
On a serious note, it's not just us or the Israelis that don't want Tehran playing with nukes.

Still been no real proof presented that they are developing nuclear weapons.

No proof that they aren't, either, just a bunch of Third Reich banter about erasing nations off the earth. You can see the way in which Iran treats its citizenry that the "peaceful energy" schtick is total bullshit. As a matter of fact, any thinking person can figure out what's going on. This "no proof" ideal is cute and all but it's really just a rhetorical failsafe.

NO PROOF!

No.. its a failsafe against yet another war over weapons that don't exist. Iraq did much the same, if you will remember... and yet... no weapons. Their banter and their mistreatment of their citizens doesn't equal a nuclear weapons program.. and even if it did, the US and Israel both have nuclear weapons already and both have a far worse history of attacking other nations. For all the sabre rattling Iran has done, we and Israel have done exactly the same.

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

I feel that anything operating via fusion or fission is better off operating in orbit than on earth. Then again, I think a lot of things are better off in orbit.

The entire field of GOP candidates, for example.

But seriously... putting anything like that into orbit would actually make it more dangerous if something were to go wrong and were it to fall out of orbit or be destroyed.

By "orbit" I was referring to space in general, as in Fukushima or Chernobyl were better off melting down outside of our atmosphere instead of on terra firma. I think it would be far less dangerous; one could install failsafes which would rocket and entire reactor into Mr. Sun should it begin a decaying orbit. I think we're better off branching out into space regardless, the planet needs a break and a lot less people.

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: sidney

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

I need to know whether it was the CIA or the Mossad so I can know where to send the thank you letter.
On a serious note, it's not just us or the Israelis that don't want Tehran playing with nukes.

Still been no real proof presented that they are developing nuclear weapons.

No proof that they aren't, either, just a bunch of Third Reich banter about erasing nations off the earth. You can see the way in which Iran treats its citizenry that the "peaceful energy" schtick is total bullshit. As a matter of fact, any thinking person can figure out what's going on. This "no proof" ideal is cute and all but it's really just a rhetorical failsafe.

NO PROOF!

No.. its a failsafe against yet another war over weapons that don't exist. Iraq did much the same, if you will remember... and yet... no weapons. Their banter and their mistreatment of their citizens doesn't equal a nuclear weapons program.. and even if it did, the US and Israel both have nuclear weapons already and both have a far worse history of attacking other nations. For all the sabre rattling Iran has done, we and Israel have done exactly the same.

Regarding war with Iran, read the post I made to vorhees on the previous page. Regarding US and Israeli atrocities, what are you trying to justify?

Originally posted by: i am skimble

If Rick Santorum were President the Santorum would have done it with a male prostitute and then told no one about it while taking away rights from gays and destroying all gay marriages.

Originally posted by: Jason Voorheees

Originally posted by: LEATHERFACE

I need to know whether it was the CIA or the Mossad so I can know where to send the thank you letter.
On a serious note, it's not just us or the Israelis that don't want Tehran playing with nukes.

see, my problem is this, i'm a geek. and i went to grad school with guys that look just like this guy. and i know for a fact that you don't become a nuclear scientist by chanting 'death to america' every day and stoning women to death, you get there by being a geek, by being a geek when you're a little kid, by being a geek when you're a teenager, by being a geek when you're in college, by being a geek when you're in graduate school, and by being a geek every day afterwards. i think people tend to think of every foreign country as monolithic, and no country is, and in the middle east, iran may be less so than than most. people seem to forget the protests in iran against ahmadinejad just a few years back.

the fact is, iran has been cooling down since the 1979 revolution [against the corrupt shah we installed btw] to the point where hardliners had begun to bemoan the youth for liking the west too much. but every time something like this happens, it spikes nationalism just like 9/11 did here, and they swing back toward 1979. the rise of the ahmadinejad right wing itself has been compared to the rise of george bush in this country for this exact reason.

and then there's just the fact that iran itself is way more sophisticated and way more 'western' than pretty much any other country in the middle east save for egypt. you don't have universities that can produce doctors, engineers, and nuclear scientists by rubbing rocks together. if you just look at the buildings in the background of that first picture, you could be looking at any city in the u.s. or europe. most people also don't realize that all this time and for the past few hundred years, iran has had the largest native jewish population in the middle east outside of israel, that are considered just as iranian as everyone else, and become doctors, lawyers, even members of parliment. so again, not monolithic.

so when i see a guy like this killed, i don't see a terrorist. i just see a geek, and a geek that got murdered. a geek that may even have gone to an american university and sung along to some crappy pearl jam song in the 1990's. he had a job, just like people of his skill set have jobs all over the world, and by the looks of his car, he wasn't exactly part of some wealthy elite. just a geek.






and every time something like this happens, it just strengthens their resolve to do this, and reaffirms everything the hardliner right says about us and israel. and really, why shouldn't it?

also, who died and made israel boss of the nuclear club? as diplomatic relations exist now, yeah sure, a nuclear iran might suck for them and for our interests over there - might - especially if they & we continue to act like assholes, but shouldn't that maybe just make us want to improve those relations as much as trying to strongarm them to take away their nukes? history has shown anyway that that's ultimately the only thing you can do, as once a country has the basic knowledge for nuclear power, it's only a matter of time, no matter how many sand castles the bullies on the beach kick over, that they get it. it might be a good idea to maybe not give their right wing assholes any more valid excuses to hate us.











*[also, marines peeing on corpses may not quite be abu ghraib,



but combined with shit like this, it may ring even more true to local ears and have just as much of an impact. between drone bombing civilians and pakistani troops, this, that, [and the other thing], this past month or so has been a major clusterfuck for us, and a major recruitment boon for the people who actually do hate us.]