RT @mharrisCSN Left achilles injury for Howard. How extensive won't be known until MRI...


Oof.

Good thing his calendar is open for the next six months

Cool thing to say

Well, he is right no matter how dickheadish the comment may be. It would be way worse for them to be continuing and lose a player.

While that is the case, his ankle has already been an issue for a year now. This is going to potentially be a huge issue for them next season.

Understood, but all this Howard hate is stupid. The bottom of the lineup was fucking awful the entire series

howard sucked, other players at least hit the ball. howard strikes out every. fucking. time.

Two players in the lineup had hits. Eat shit.

I'm not nearly as upset as I was in 2010. In 2010, we had the World Series won and we gave it away. The Giants didn't win the NLCS as much as we lost it. This year, we barely lost to a team who played better and is a real contender.

I don't see this thread going anywhere except for people blaming Howard, posting about the Flyers or saying a quick, meaningless, one sentence bummed out reply. Here's some things on my mind which maybe can spark a little debate.

1. Cliff Lee will forever go down as one of my favorite Phillies for how much love he showed for Philadelphia this offseason. If the Rangers go onto win the World Series without him, which I think they will, how bad do you feel for him?

2. Is anybody sick of Charlie being so stubborn? He has a game plan in his head, and over his tenure here, he rarely sways away from it. His refusal to pull Lidge as the closer in 2009 until near the end of the season is a perfect example. Any manager in any job has to have a plan b. He also refuses to ever play small ball. I'd love to see more bunting and base stealing. You have to really watch baseball in depth to see how some of the better managers differentiate from Charlie. I really admire a guy like Joe Maddon. I do love Charlie, so don't think is a bash at him. I just think he could stand to be a little more unconventional and shake things up. I will point out that the Diamondbacks nearly stole the series tonight when they tied the game up on a suicide squeeze. What are the odds of the Phillies ever attempting something like that?

3. Does anybody want to guess what these numbers are? 33, 33, 28, 32, 31, 39, 36, 32, 34. Those are the ages of our starters tonight. It's no secret what the farm system looks like or how long and lucrative some of our bigger contracts are. If the Phillies don't win it all in 2012 or 2013, kiss any hopes of another World Series trophy away for quite some time.

4. How tough will it be to get through the NL next year against the Cardinals when they have their ace pitcher back? They are doing this all without Adam Wainwright. This is, of course, assuming they resign Pujols.

Joe with a truth nuke

Philly always needs a goat. Lets blame the last guy to hit. No wonder the area fans have such a bad rap

And lets please talk about sticking with the exact same lineup when it obviously wasn't working

Howard's lack of being clutch was not just this year either, he sucks in the postseason every year. I always defended him too but I was wrong, he sucks.

He led the team in rbis. Without his production they may have no even won the division.

Not sure why you have such a Hardon for one guy when they all fucking sucked.

All the bats suck, they sucked last year to