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September 21 2011 6:34 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
a little more than that actually.
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September 21 2011 8:46 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Kadesh

taxes, aren't my own money being used how I want it to be used (currently, yes for the most part)....taxing more doesn't help. I'm all for the bare necessities, roads, bridges, jails and police officers, paying gov. workers ,etc. I'm not for the government doing what we're all supposed to do anyhow like helping the homeless and get heathcare....things of that nature. A step in that way and we're one step in the direction of communism.

I guess we lose the power of our own money to change what we think is best to change. Money tends to be "freedom," loss of it tends to be losing freedom.



So.. you are against all taxes, then? Or just some taxes? Or perhaps you are against representative democracy, then?

Let me ask you something, then... if we aren't doing it ourselves to help the homeless or can't afford health care (as is a problem for many many people who unlike you don't get government subsidized healthcare... then should we simply throw up our hands because the free market isn't providing affordable health insurance?

As for that being one step towards communism, you're drawing a pretty damned arbitrary line there.... and its a line every other single fucking industrialized first world nation except ours has crossed, some for over half a century already.

New rule... if you can't name an actual freedom you are losing, you probably aren't losing an actual freedom. Not having to pay taxes is not a freedom. In fact, given your tax bracket, Obama CUT your fucking taxes, so what in fuck are you whining about??? You yourself said you only disagreed with Bush on one thing.. immigration. So, where was all this whiny, bitchy, hand wringing over your taxes being spent on things you don't want (as if you are the first to ever have that problem, you whiny fucking hypocrite) as if you don't live in a democracy when Bush was in office? Because, you see.. you've been on this forum that whole time, and you didn't once bring up this kind of shit at the time... though I'm sure you've convinced yourself that you have always believed this and always stood up for this sort of thing... though you haven't.

Unless you think that all of Europe, most of asia, much of south america, and canada are ALL socialist dictatorships, then this whole argument that "its a step towards communism" to simply provide healthcare for everyone in America, then you should check your fucking medication because you either need a refill or a much higher dose of your anti-psychotic. Its not communism; its the 21st fucking century, and its about damned time you backwards ass hillbilly fucktards joined it.
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September 22 2011 1:14 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Kadesh

a little more than that actually.



Okay... what more than taxes are you complaining about, Matt? ... and don't say "freedom" unless you can name what actual freedom you are losing... and having to pay taxes is not a loss of freedom, especially given the relatively low tax rates this country has.
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September 22 2011 1:16 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
freedom!!! yeah!!! freedom!!! yeaahh righttt!!!
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September 22 2011 3:21 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: Kadesh

taxes, aren't my own money being used how I want it to be used (currently, yes for the most part)....taxing more doesn't help. I'm all for the bare necessities, roads, bridges, jails and police officers, paying gov. workers ,etc. I'm not for the government doing what we're all supposed to do anyhow like helping the homeless and get heathcare....things of that nature. A step in that way and we're one step in the direction of communism.

I guess we lose the power of our own money to change what we think is best to change. Money tends to be "freedom," loss of it tends to be losing freedom.



So.. you are against all taxes, then? Or just some taxes? Or perhaps you are against representative democracy, then?

Let me ask you something, then... if we aren't doing it ourselves to help the homeless or can't afford health care (as is a problem for many many people who unlike you don't get government subsidized healthcare... then should we simply throw up our hands because the free market isn't providing affordable health insurance?

As for that being one step towards communism, you're drawing a pretty damned arbitrary line there.... and its a line every other single fucking industrialized first world nation except ours has crossed, some for over half a century already.

New rule... if you can't name an actual freedom you are losing, you probably aren't losing an actual freedom. Not having to pay taxes is not a freedom. In fact, given your tax bracket, Obama CUT your fucking taxes, so what in fuck are you whining about??? You yourself said you only disagreed with Bush on one thing.. immigration. So, where was all this whiny, bitchy, hand wringing over your taxes being spent on things you don't want (as if you are the first to ever have that problem, you whiny fucking hypocrite) as if you don't live in a democracy when Bush was in office? Because, you see.. you've been on this forum that whole time, and you didn't once bring up this kind of shit at the time... though I'm sure you've convinced yourself that you have always believed this and always stood up for this sort of thing... though you haven't.

Unless you think that all of Europe, most of asia, much of south america, and canada are ALL socialist dictatorships, then this whole argument that "its a step towards communism" to simply provide healthcare for everyone in America, then you should check your fucking medication because you either need a refill or a much higher dose of your anti-psychotic. Its not communism; its the 21st fucking century, and its about damned time you backwards ass hillbilly fucktards joined it.



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September 22 2011 3:23 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: Kadesh

a little more than that actually.



Okay... what more than taxes are you complaining about, Matt? ... and don't say "freedom" unless you can name what actual freedom you are losing... and having to pay taxes is not a loss of freedom, especially given the relatively low tax rates this country has.



you already brought this up but i don't think it's been driven home hard enough yet.

kadesh, YOUR FUCKING TAXES AREN'T GOING TO GO UP, AT ALL. YOU ARE FROM-NOW-ON NO LONGER ALLOWED TO SITE THIS AS A REASON TO SAY THE RETARDED SHIT THAT YOU SAY.
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September 22 2011 3:30 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: 3,000 piece McNugget

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: Kadesh

a little more than that actually.



Okay... what more than taxes are you complaining about, Matt? ... and don't say "freedom" unless you can name what actual freedom you are losing... and having to pay taxes is not a loss of freedom, especially given the relatively low tax rates this country has.



you already brought this up but i don't think it's been driven home hard enough yet.

kadesh, YOUR FUCKING TAXES AREN'T GOING TO GO UP, AT ALL. YOU ARE FROM-NOW-ON NO LONGER ALLOWED TO SITE THIS AS A REASON TO SAY THE RETARDED SHIT THAT YOU SAY.

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September 22 2011 4:29 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: Kadesh

a little more than that actually.



Okay... what more than taxes are you complaining about, Matt? ... and don't say "freedom" unless you can name what actual freedom you are losing... and having to pay taxes is not a loss of freedom, especially given the relatively low tax rates this country has.



taxes for a purposed universal healthcare, IF it happens. It's looking like it will the way you are supporting it. Other than that, no complaints.
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September 22 2011 4:41 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Kadesh

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: Kadesh

a little more than that actually.



Okay... what more than taxes are you complaining about, Matt? ... and don't say "freedom" unless you can name what actual freedom you are losing... and having to pay taxes is not a loss of freedom, especially given the relatively low tax rates this country has.



taxes for a purposed universal healthcare, IF it happens. It's looking like it will the way you are supporting it. Other than that, no complaints.



A. Proposed.
B. Its not universal healthcare.
C. My support has nothing to do with it... and it hasn't even been proposed by those in power.
D. So, your sole complaint is taxes paying for universal healthcare.. something that hasn't been proposed, much less passed, and which is not happening... and would not actually cost you more money for your healthcare and it is questionable if your taxes would actually increase at all for it, if it were actually proposed and passed.

Thanks for showing how utterly confused many teabaggers are.
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September 22 2011 4:47 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: 3,000 piece McNugget

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

Originally posted by: Kadesh

taxes, aren't my own money being used how I want it to be used (currently, yes for the most part)....taxing more doesn't help. I'm all for the bare necessities, roads, bridges, jails and police officers, paying gov. workers ,etc. I'm not for the government doing what we're all supposed to do anyhow like helping the homeless and get heathcare....things of that nature. A step in that way and we're one step in the direction of communism.

I guess we lose the power of our own money to change what we think is best to change. Money tends to be "freedom," loss of it tends to be losing freedom.



So.. you are against all taxes, then? Or just some taxes? Or perhaps you are against representative democracy, then?

Let me ask you something, then... if we aren't doing it ourselves to help the homeless or can't afford health care (as is a problem for many many people who unlike you don't get government subsidized healthcare... then should we simply throw up our hands because the free market isn't providing affordable health insurance?

As for that being one step towards communism, you're drawing a pretty damned arbitrary line there.... and its a line every other single fucking industrialized first world nation except ours has crossed, some for over half a century already.

New rule... if you can't name an actual freedom you are losing, you probably aren't losing an actual freedom. Not having to pay taxes is not a freedom. In fact, given your tax bracket, Obama CUT your fucking taxes, so what in fuck are you whining about??? You yourself said you only disagreed with Bush on one thing.. immigration. So, where was all this whiny, bitchy, hand wringing over your taxes being spent on things you don't want (as if you are the first to ever have that problem, you whiny fucking hypocrite) as if you don't live in a democracy when Bush was in office? Because, you see.. you've been on this forum that whole time, and you didn't once bring up this kind of shit at the time... though I'm sure you've convinced yourself that you have always believed this and always stood up for this sort of thing... though you haven't.

Unless you think that all of Europe, most of asia, much of south america, and canada are ALL socialist dictatorships, then this whole argument that "its a step towards communism" to simply provide healthcare for everyone in America, then you should check your fucking medication because you either need a refill or a much higher dose of your anti-psychotic. Its not communism; its the 21st fucking century, and its about damned time you backwards ass hillbilly fucktards joined it.



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I don't have time to reply now, later, but to me you seem like a baby in the sense that you want your "daddy" to take care of you when you fall and get a boo-boo....You do realize "universal healthcare" brings every body down a level because the doctors aren't working to make their product the best, they're just able to do the job....as simply as that. I'll get you later.
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September 22 2011 4:48 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
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