Originally posted by: limited visionOriginally posted by: crunkmoose
And our instantaneous genesis in god's image left us with... wisdom teeth. Yeah, those were a good idea. They often don't come in straight and have to be removed and while that is rountine these days back in the day before there was surgery or surgery was advanced as much as it is today... not so routine and safe.
actually, wisdom teeth, like most things that have come down to us through EVOLUTION, serve a purpose and are pretty ingenius actually. we've maybe outgrown their specific use today with modern hygiene, but they come in to push your teeth together to fill in gaps left by lost teeth that have either rotted out or been knocked out by your caveman friends. no one counted on the toothbrush making them unnecessary.
but yeah, today, ouch. sorry to hear about that. it's also often a salespitched insurance scam by dentists though; removing them is often unnecessary. while the process of them coming in is sometimes uncomfortable - that's when they sell you the idea, once they have settled, they're often fine, even if not perfectly straight.
hope they gave you some decent drugs for that.
Originally posted by: Wesley F GibsonOriginally posted by: limited visionOriginally posted by: crunkmoose
And our instantaneous genesis in god's image left us with... wisdom teeth. Yeah, those were a good idea. They often don't come in straight and have to be removed and while that is rountine these days back in the day before there was surgery or surgery was advanced as much as it is today... not so routine and safe.
actually, wisdom teeth, like most things that have come down to us through EVOLUTION, serve a purpose and are pretty ingenius actually. we've maybe outgrown their specific use today with modern hygiene, but they come in to push your teeth together to fill in gaps left by lost teeth that have either rotted out or been knocked out by your caveman friends. no one counted on the toothbrush making them unnecessary.
but yeah, today, ouch. sorry to hear about that. it's also often a salespitched insurance scam by dentists though; removing them is often unnecessary. while the process of them coming in is sometimes uncomfortable - that's when they sell you the idea, once they have settled, they're often fine, even if not perfectly straight.
hope they gave you some decent drugs for that.
same
Originally posted by: crunkmoose
1. Yeah, you CAN do terrible things in the name of either, but the fact is that one side has a far far far far far higher body count and tendency to do things that are terrible in the name of their beliefs, in part because of the nature of their beliefs.
2. Yep.
3. NJ town cuts police force and then tries to pray crime down. I kid you not... this went on. In some ways this one is true, yes... but not universally so, and the differences seem to come most often from religious prohibitions.
4.yes
5. And yet the atheist point of view is.. with few exceptions... that we should all have the right to our own beliefs and that no religion should be forced on anyone.. much less any lack thereof. The religious views of some are repugnant to me because they seek to do actual harm to others and to compel others to follow their religious laws.
6. yes
7. yes
8. The negative aspects of religion are what those who do not believe actually oppose.
9. Yes... but one side brings far more negative things to the table... and that same side is the one that seeks to use government to further its own agendas and force its beliefs on others through law.
10. True... but, then... religion has a far longer and bloody record of trying.
I say all this because quite simply I don't need or have to agree with the religious on anything outside of the idea that everyone is free to have their own beliefs and that others should not be forced by law to follow the religious or moral rules of anyone else.