i'm not even sure what the fuck you're arguing but let's assume government was completely taken out of education. who is going to pay the teacher's salaries?
Government doesnt create resources- it takes resources from people through taxation, so, right now, just like always, regular people are paying teachers salaries. It just first passes through the hands of violent collectors and into a public trough, and is then filtered by lobbyists and competing special interests invested many generations back in networks of corruption. Wasteful, ignorant, backward system that leads to shitty education, like we have now everywhere. You cant argue about the money- in places where they spent the most, the education is the worst.
would parents pay tuition for k-12?
Yes they already do. the ones that dont get a shit product that is valueless. "Oh hey potential employer; yeah I have a high school diploma from the Camden County school system! Whats that? Oh, that proves only that I can wake up in the morning and get on a bus? Oh well..."
what do you think that would do to the economy?
Immediately create competing academic businesses and teacher networks in every county in america.
would the market be able sustain schools, even in poor neighborhoods?
The market already does sustain them, and only with what is left after the politicians raid the accounts.
would americans be able to compete in a global job market with people from countries that subsidized education (ie every other modern fucking country)?
They would utterly dominate, because one's ability to teach would determine his market position, and people would then compete with each other to learn from the better teachers. Instead of being herded on public transit to the right grid-building by ZIP code.
You do know that a market principle is that when something is not monopolized, the service gets better while the cost decreases, right? Remember what we were saying earlier- lots of people are always teaching FOR FREE.
Public education is about taking kids and putting them in boxes and making them jump when bells ring. There are books from Dewey and other glorious founders of american education that say exactly this. It is a strategy for engineering a controlled society. If its goal is education WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT BEING EDUCATED? The system is broken. Education is a property of mankind
. It is physically wired into our DNA to educate our young, it is why and how we evolved.
Naturally then government, which has replaced the Church in the simple minds of simple people, assumes then this function and power for itself, and naturally these people accept that, as they did when the Church made claims on their soul.
if we didn't have a national curriculum would states or maybe even districts be able to decide whether they wanted to teach something like intelligent design or that obama ordered the attack on 9/11 or that slavery was a noble institution that ended because of northern aggression? or mayber schools could get revenues from sponsorships. like mcdonalds could just buy a school and set the curriculum.
Sure, and you could be free to look at the school and say, "nah thats bullshit. Yo how about our friend Matt? Hes a genius. He can teach my kids math and physics and chemistry and I will give him some money and help his wife with their house."
seriously, the idea that schools could function at all without government oversight and subsidization is nothing short of mentally retarded.
the good schools in america are private...who is retarded?
and it's a "fizzity-fact" that teacher's are underpaid by 4-9% than if they went to work in the public sector.
No one can decide what under and over paid is except people willing to pay for things. You cant point ot a chart and say, "SEE! Thats how much we are worth!" if people dont want your service.
Unions are just mad because they know that regular people think schools are a joke, that diplomas have no value whatsoever, and that they would not pay a dime to keep them going if they were not forced to.