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George
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February 9 2011 5:22 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
The sad thing is idiots like that aren't exclusive to Iowa.
abby
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February 21 2011 9:43 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
(I didn't read the rest of the thread so sorry if I am a bit redundant.)

Obama fails. He cannot negotiate. Or he doesn't want to. Because, better to face it, he is a moderate republican. And the country thought they were voting for a liberal. Ha. except for the right who claimed he was a socialist (lqtms). I wish.

Obama just cut taxes for the rich and raised taxes on the poor, so the cycle continues. No change, as promised. Putting a salary freeze on federal employees while extending bush era tax cuts? Nice. Not to mention the fact that the payroll tax credit doesn't really even apply to people who make under 20K a year, and to get that "dea" he had to get rid of one of the tax credits for that bracket.

Good bye middle class, hope you are ready to enjoy wage slavery to an even more oppressive degree!
abby
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February 21 2011 9:44 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
*"deal"
crunkmoose
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February 21 2011 10:10 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
"Obama fails. He cannot negotiate. Or he doesn't want to."

He fails to negotiate with WHOM, exactly?

"he is a moderate republican."

Pretty much.
abby
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February 22 2011 5:50 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
He fails to negotiate with the republicans on behalf of the democratic ideal, or on behalf of the majority of the people (aka everyone who doesnt have a billion dollars), but alas, it's because he is a republican. And the democrats and the republicans are pretty much the same party anyways, so I guess it doesn't even matter.

Corporate business party versus the people: welcome to planet Earth.

Time to rise the fuck up.
sidney
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February 22 2011 5:55 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Lol. I wish some you lived in the real world
Brett Weir
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February 23 2011 4:56 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
He fails to negotiate with those wackjobs because they will oppose anything he does just because it is him doing it.
Mechanical Birds
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February 23 2011 6:10 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: abby

(I didn't read the rest of the thread so sorry if I am a bit redundant.)

Obama fails. He cannot negotiate. Or he doesn't want to. Because, better to face it, he is a moderate republican. And the country thought they were voting for a liberal. Ha. except for the right who claimed he was a socialist (lqtms). I wish.

Obama just cut taxes for the rich and raised taxes on the poor, so the cycle continues. No change, as promised. Putting a salary freeze on federal employees while extending bush era tax cuts? Nice. Not to mention the fact that the payroll tax credit doesn't really even apply to people who make under 20K a year, and to get that "dea" he had to get rid of one of the tax credits for that bracket.

Good bye middle class, hope you are ready to enjoy wage slavery to an even more oppressive degree!



please show me where he raised taxes on the middle class. i'm pretty sure that the bush tax plan cut taxes for everybody, but rich people stand to benefit a lot more because they're making more money. it's fucked, but i haven't seen anything where taxes have been raised on the middle class.
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July 25 2011 7:35 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
2011: should have let the Bush tax cuts expire last year, and then, a month or two later, presented a new bill that would cut taxes for people making under $250k. it would have passed as republicans have a hard time telling their base that they ever voted against tax cuts. letting the Bush tax cuts expire would have increased revenue and helped offset the budget problems he's facing right now, and the new bill would have allowed obama to say that he cut most people's taxes with his own bill, now and during his reelection campaign.

what he did: tried to negotiate with republicans who hate him last year for keeping the cuts for people under $250k, lost, and is now in a position where he will need to give up even more ground to the opposition during the current debt ceiling talks, once again revealing that his administration has absolutely no sense of political strategy.




when mr. cool got elected, i really thought he and his people were thinking three or four moves ahead of the game. now i know that they may think they are, but their failure rate proves that they are just as scrambling and reactive as anyone else involved, if not moreso. not a good thing for them when the republicans look like the chess players in the relationship.
Kadesh
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July 26 2011 6:29 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: crunkmoose

"Obama fails. He cannot negotiate. Or he doesn't want to."

He fails to negotiate with WHOM, exactly?

"he is a moderate republican."

Pretty much.



then why did you vote for him? I know your not republican. unless all this time you were just pretending. He's somehow pretending to be a libral and had you fooled, I see. politics has aaalot of pretenders. Maybe you should run for an office.



good old times with moose, you don't change much.
DennisQ
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July 26 2011 7:56 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
im sure crunk moose and others who voted for him didn't have access to a time machine to peer into the future of his presidency
Rats in the walls
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July 26 2011 8:00 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
given that the alternative was sarah palin and john mccain, i don't think anyone really needs to beat themselves up too much for voting for obama. is he a disappointment? yes. would mccain/palin have been better? hell. fucking. no.
Dwarn
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July 27 2011 12:26 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
^


"Winston turned a little sideways in his chair to drink his mug of coffee. At the table on his left the man with the strident voice was still talking remorselessly away....It was just a noise, a quack-quack-quacking....Every word of it was pure orthodoxy, pure Ingsoc....Winston had a curious feeling that this was not a real human being but some kind of dummy. It was not the man's brain that was speaking, it was his larynx. The stuff that was coming out of him consisted of words, but it was not speech in the true sense: it was noise uttered in unconsciousness, like the quacking of a duck."
Dwarno
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July 27 2011 12:34 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Jews did 9/11.
crunkmoose
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July 27 2011 12:54 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: Kadesh

Originally posted by: crunkmoose

"Obama fails. He cannot negotiate. Or he doesn't want to."

He fails to negotiate with WHOM, exactly?

"he is a moderate republican."

Pretty much.



then why did you vote for him? I know your not republican. unless all this time you were just pretending. He's somehow pretending to be a libral and had you fooled, I see. politics has aaalot of pretenders. Maybe you should run for an office.



good old times with moose, you don't change much.



I didn't vote, ass. Why didn't I vote? Because there are only two candidates to vote for who have an actual chance of winning and that is because of the way the system is set up. I didn't care for either, but I certainly preferred Obama to the Mccain and Caribou Barbie.
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