cougar kai is only funny because of cobra kai being well known

cougar kai is only funny because of cobra kai being well known

Originally posted by:LH

Originally posted by: pahulkster

Gracie name goes a long way with me because I'm interested in bjj more than anything. Them having good judo guys is a huge plus too. Cougar Kai is a pretty horrible name haha. When you said the Gracie striking went downhill what do you mean?

They have boxing mondays, and Muy thai on fridays... The boxing instructor would only show up once in a while cause he has a kid, and the muy thai class was cool but was also on friday nights when there was shows and such. Jeff the owner told me they were going to get rid of those 2 classes about 2 months ago and start just a MMA class on thursdays with both instructors there. Well 2 months went by and it still hasnt happened. So what i do its i go to that cougar Kai place for the MMA and Jiu Jitsu(the instructors are both purple belts out of gracie) which is why i like it, and then about 3 times a month ill hit up a class at gracie.

It's spelled Muay Thai.

Originally posted by:pahulkster

Wren, any info on Rat Pack Fighting Systems? They aren't too far from me, and seem to have a good handle on things.

click here for link

Their bjj instructor also has a school in Scranton, but Rat Pack is a little closer for me and seems to have a better overall program.

If Eric Utsch is their head Muay Thai instructor i would highly recommend taking a few classes with him.

Their head BJJ instructor seems to be a black belt which is definitely a start. There are alot of schools that are popping up all over the place where the main BJJ instructor is barely a blue belt.

For $75 a month for the Muay Thai and BJJ package, isn't a bad price at all. And $50 just for BJJ is nice as well. Most schools in the city are no cheaper than $75-100 for just one and $120+ for the full package. Some schools in Philly are charging upwards to $200 a month for their full MMA program, which is ridiculous because top schools like Jackson Submission and Xtreme Couture aren't even charging that much for monthly memberships.

Hmmm decisions. Rat Pack is a good price and a little closer for me than the Gracie school. The Simrell school is also an option because he has a lot of what I'm interested in. Black belts in bjj, judo, and sambo really peaks my interest. Muay Thai at Rat Pack is one thing that is making the decision a lot tougher.

Price is a factor because I want to keep my regular gym membership too. None of these places seem to have a regular gym type area, and I don't want to stop lifting. I guess I'll just check them all out and see what's what.

Don't be fooled by the Gracie name. Some "Gracie" schools have about as much to do with the Gracie Family as I would if i opened my school. The Gracie Family loves for Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to be called Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and it helps boost their ego when they see Gracie Jiu-Jitsu on the side of a building.

Do you have a link to the school's website? I'd like to see which Gracie, if any, are the exactly associated with.


edit: Actually i see that it's part of the Royce Gracie's Network and their head instructor is a Brown Belt underneath him. That's a pretty good credential since the actual Gracie family is very stingy with giving out belts.

having a blackbelt is a huge plus, but depending on where you live, they can be hard to find. a solid purple is more than capable of running a school.

i train at grindhouse and been doing it for about 9 months now. i'd like to eventually compete twice a year and ultimately become pro. i still have a lot of learning to do but getting kicked in the face and choking out dudes bigger than me for a living is better than framing and hanging drywall.

it's fun; always something new and never boring, you'll be in great shape, and it can potentially be a full time job if you do it right. but there's a lot of self-preparation involved, and it's not as simple as just working out, hitting the heavy bag, sparring and grappling all the time. it takes a shitload of commitment that frankly, 99% of people who walk into grindhouse for the first time and say they wanna train in MMA don't have. most people quit after a week, and the rest after a month or even two. trust me, you'll never get used to getting your face pounded, you'll lose your flinch in time, but it still hurts getting knocked around. if you're serious about it, the trainers will push you til you break, break you some more, and expect you to give 200% every single day, 7 days a week and not waste their time.

and if you eat shitty food, have a serious relationship or multiple pets, consider changing that. if you decide you're fighting full time, unless you're a heavy weight you need to eat good nutritious food and eat often (5 to 6 meals a day...skip the pizza and beer), your girlfriend isn't gonna get cuddle time or sex because you're not gonna be around and will be too tired to perform (not to mention it's not easy for someone that cares that much about you to watch you get knocked out for a living), and you'll never be home to feed the puppies or scoop the cats litter box.

i do encourage everyone who's considering to at least try it out. you never know it could turn out to be something you're really good at. especially the stocky guys with high school/collegiate wrestling backgrounds, they're always tough as nails. also be prepared to sweat, i drink a gallon of water with electrolytes every training session and sometimes i'm still dehydrated by the time i'm done. i'm not trying to discourage anyone, just saying that if you think it's something you may want to do, come ready to work.

what a ridiculous post

Originally posted by:Craley

what a ridiculous post

he makes is sound so...enticing.

I don't know exactly what that post was suppose to say. The entire thing up until the last bit said that unless you are planning on going pro, you shouldn't even bother. Then the last line comes in saying "but i don't discourage anyone".

To me the whole thing came off very douchebagish. Everything that was said was about how hard it can be providing you are interested in taking this on as a full time job, instead of encouraging people to come check out some great martial arts and the greatest sport in the world. Not everyone walks through the door the first time with the plans of being the UFC champion. Some people want to build confidence, get in shape, or just learn a martial art. There are many reasons, including some bad ones, for why people train MMA at all.


I absolutely encourage everyone to check it out for themselves. I think most people would be blown away with it after a week or two. And you don't have to make the sport or the art your entire life. Sometimes it just works out that way but its definitely not a requirement for being involved with it.

Originally posted by:Craley

what a ridiculous post

I agree with Wren. Try it out, if you like it and can only train 3 days a week and view it as a hobby then go for it. If you find out you only like to do the muay thai or just the jiu jitsu part of things thats fine too.

Sure a lot of people sign up and take a class or two and dont come back because its either harder than it looked in their mind or they're not used to the level of activity-
but plenty of people stay and do it for the other reasons mentioned in this thread other than to claim thier occupation as an MMA fighter with 9 months of training.

just do bjj. get about 6 months of bjj under your belt, then consider mma. dont jump in and do everything at once, you'll get confused

i went from straight muay thai after a few months into BJJ and MMA. I'm not confused.

you had a prior base to some form of martial arts. i'm talking more of a person who just decides today they wanna do mma without having done any legit striking or groundwork