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destroytheweak
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October 28 2009 6:19 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by:Sharplimbed

Originally posted by: paradelights

Originally posted by:metalhead22554

Originally posted by:paradelights

when comes to "brass tracks" I gave you cases but you didn't believe them in this thread via BBC news. I'm not giving anything else until you take that.



you said you proof provide it and prove us wrong or STFU



I DID. PAGE 19.


This has nothing to do with amputees. This is someone who couldn't walk who was then able to walk. Something that happens routinely without any supernatural effect, even if you think this case does have that.

It's certainly not proof of healing, and completely irrelevant to my point about god not healing amputees.



id did read obviously you didn't because this doesn't have shit to do with amputees and your supposed proof of people being able to grow limbs back.
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October 28 2009 6:23 PM   QuickQuote Quote  



id did read obviously you didn't because this doesn't have shit to do with amputees and your supposed proof of people being able to grow limbs back.



if you can't believe what I've already given you evidence for, why should I give you evidence for anything else....
end of story.
close thread.
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October 28 2009 6:42 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by:paradelights




id did read obviously you didn't because this doesn't have shit to do with amputees and your supposed proof of people being able to grow limbs back.



if you can't believe what I've already given you evidence for, why should I give you evidence for anything else....
end of story.
close thread.



If you actually have evidence (I don't believe you do) why would you bother to hold it back? Because you won't be believed? Thats no reason at all.
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October 28 2009 8:22 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by:paradelights




id did read obviously you didn't because this doesn't have shit to do with amputees and your supposed proof of people being able to grow limbs back.



if you can't believe what I've already given you evidence for, why should I give you evidence for anything else....
end of story.
close thread.



there is no way you are in college if you can't understand what is going on here. how else do i say this to you

MATT YOU SAID YOU WERE HOLDING BACK EVIDENCE OF GOD GROWING BACK LIMBS OF AMPUTEES

we asked you to post your evidence and you brought none. the evidence you posted had nothing to do with amputees growing back limbs. therefore you have no evidence and have lost this argument because you can't provide anything to back up your claim.
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October 28 2009 11:10 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by:metalhead22554


there is no way you are in college if you can't understand what is going on here.







no, they have colleges for retards too.
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October 29 2009 11:03 AM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by: paradelights




id did read obviously you didn't because this doesn't have shit to do with amputees and your supposed proof of people being able to grow limbs back.



if you can't believe what I've already given you evidence for, why should I give you evidence for anything else....
end of story.
close thread.



matt, everybody believes that woman got better. now show someone regrowing a limb.

you obviously don't know of any cases, and that's fine, why not just say so? amputees not being healed doesn't disprove healing, so i really don't get why you're clinging on to this argument that makes you look so desperately pathetic.

here's a recap:

i said "god doesn't heal amputees"
you said "there are cases of this"
i said "show me"
you said "look, god make this woman be able to walk"
i said "that has nothing to do with amputees"
you said "well if you don't accept that, then i won't show you the evidence for amputees"

again, someone regrowing a limb is impossible. someone recovering from walking is not. if you cannot see how someone regrowing a limb is much much much stronger evidence for healing, then you're more naive than i thought.

if you have evidence that amputees have regrown limbs by god's healing power and you are holding back this information, and you believe what the bible says, then that is completely immoral. that said, i know you don't have evidence, so you're not that evil.
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October 29 2009 12:12 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
I only have stories from people I've met and know of. Surprisingly the news doesn't really even believe these things when people report them. It is actually a surprise to see someone on BBC get healed by prayer. It's even more rare for amputees.

I don't know any stories for arms regrowing or something, however I do have stories for smaller things such as teeth on adults regrowing after having a root canal, a "popped cherry" (if you understand the meaning) of a long time prostitute regrowing after prayer (there are personal circumstances for why this happened. She gave herself to God and asked God to basically be a virgin again because she felt she wasn't worthy of another man).

There is a man I know of who needed a new pancreas, he is in his 40s. He went in the hospital with pancreatitis. Normal levels of amylase (acid in the pancreas) is in the 20s; his level was 17,000, which means he should have been dead. When you have pancreatitis, all the acids in the pancreas just float around your body eating away at veins, arteries, organs, whatever is in the way. It is not a good thing! The man was very ill, and doctors were not sure if he would make it. He has had many people praying for his healing. His doctor told him that he would be in the hospital for another three months and that he was liable to be put into a coma and undergo about seven surgeries to clean him out. Even then, they were not sure what his outcome would be. One week later, he was home and began a total turn around. He went in on a 4- to 6-week check. They did a scan again and his surgeon pulled a friend of the man aside, and said, "Look at this. Can you explain this?" When this man, Ted, looked at the pictures, he saw a totally new pancreas. The first slide shows that 3/4s of his pancreas was dead with no blood flow, but today's new pancreas was whole and with total blood flow to it. His body was very swollen. In medical terms it was swollen to a measurement of 10, and in that 4- to 6-week period, his swelling went to 0.

These things happen all the time. The news doesn't report them because they don't know what to make of them. Also I would like an apology from crunkmoose and metal simply because I don't lie about this stuff. If I say I have stories, I do. Remember that next time.....


(prediction of what will happen next: complete denial, basically what I said would happen. I just want to see it happen to prove to myself why telling anyone on this forum anything is useless)
Davey.
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October 29 2009 12:17 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
lol
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October 29 2009 12:18 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Is that good for you? Or would you like more stories? There are many I can look up. Regardless, God is real, he heals people, and to deny that God is there and that He loves us is a lie. If God wasn't real and didn't want to know us personally, the whole idea of "God" would have died away centuries ago because of the lack of results and people wouldn't be converting to Christianity every day.
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October 29 2009 12:19 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
Originally posted by:Davey.

lol



point proved. complete denial. I think we can close the thread now.
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October 29 2009 12:20 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
or we could look at double blind tests that have been done that have proven that prayer has no positive effect whatsoever.
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October 29 2009 12:21 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
My question to you davey is, what if all of this stuff is absolutely real and God is real?
Davey.
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October 29 2009 12:24 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
if prayer really healed people then we would all know about it and believe it.
if god really exists, he's pretty fucking good at hiding himself.

surely just one child getting leukemia and dying despite hundreds of people praying for them is enough to make you realise that the corner you are fighting is fucking nonsense?
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October 29 2009 12:26 PM   QuickQuote Quote  
in reply to matt:

okay then, you don't know of any instances where amputees are healed. that was all that i was saying in the first place.

god probably hates them. i know i do, and me and god are both pretty great.
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